Police rape verdict is a crime

I believe Louise too.

Kia Kaha!!! this is fuckin bullshit! justice system my arse! never trus cops! !!

Good shit yall!!

As with the Stephen Wallace execution this is the tactic commonly used. In the Wallace case, executioner Abbots $250,000 state payed defence lawyers were able to limit the parameters of the trial to a small time frame. The Wallace whanau's $45 an hour country bumpkin lawyers were not able to counter this, thus most of the incriminating circumstances were not able to be presented or not allowed to be brought out period.

capitalist justice is strange Cam.

Oh and by the way Phil the Vegan, if you say anything stupid about rape on this thread again, I will eat a cow in your honour.

Actually make it a chicken. I'd be hard pushed to eat a whole cow, but I can totally eat a whole chicken.

can I also ask that for once, we have a debate here without bringing veganism into it. fuck, its not relevant so can you all (everyone) shut up about it

please, if suppressed info gets posted here, we have to delete it.
hopefully the suppression orders get lifted soon, but until that happens we just can not have the information posted here - contempt of court is very serious charges

thank you for your help in this...

xx an editorial collective member

While contempt of court is serious, I think we all have a right to know as much of the 'facts' about this case and its wider context as possible. It's frustrating that this issue cannot be discussed openly. How can I get hold of one of the leaflets that have been distributed?

I believe Louise Nicholas. I suspect the police involved took it for granted that they were able to use their authority to terrorise Louise Nicholas and get away with it. The use of coercion and intimidation to get a sort of desperate acquiescence that could be termed consent – if you have a particularly sick understanding of the world – probably isn’t uncommon in the circles they inhabit. Possibly, they didn’t even consider themselves rapists.

I can understand the jury having difficulty with deciding how to treat these men. Maybe ‘dangerously deranged from living in a sexist and authoritarian society’ would be a fair verdict, but I guess a jury would baulk at a label that could be applied to so many men.

Information seems to be getting less and less free. Indymedia afraid of being sued? How about we start a direct action pledge of solidarity of all those who will be arrestted in support of indymedia keep the rapist cops names up? Is this a reason Indy was founded?

you dont get sued for contempt of court. you get put in jail. A pissed off High Court Judge can do what ever the hell they like.
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The cost of the truth sometimes is high. Or is it maybe we need to get smarter and try and work around the oppressor. Like say my name was Robert Sholum or Bradly Shitcan, how close is that to the pricks name that is suppressed, technically not the same name, but enough to get the news out as to who you were talking about. Just a thought. As i said on the other thread, its just conjecture anyways, who is there to confirm that these are in fact the two in question without directly alluding to the fact that this is them? If it were tru and the feedbackers below had hit the correct names by just associated guesswork, then it is really up to the police to contact Indymedia staff and confirm this, knowing it was guesswork, and ask that these names be removed.

Interestingly, on the news last night (both TV3 and TV1 carried stories about the leaflets), TV3 made a point of saying "and lets be clear about this, these leaflets contain supressed FACTS, not conjecture" or something to that effect. To me, that strikes me as a sympathetic showing from TV3 - I'd imagine the MSM would love to publicise this info.

Justice was definitely not done. The law must be changed so that rapists are not able to turn the tables and put the victim on trial! Present law gives rapists maximum protection. If your house gets burgled, you don't have to prove it happened, the perpetrator has to prove they didn't do it! There is no level playing field for rape victims.

why does the "eat a cow" comment remain and not my comment comparing suppressed evidence to media and narrow public debate removed please? can't we on indymedia make linkages to what we see as worthy comparisons of suppression of the truth in the capitalist system? geez. censorship!

A sad day for NZ justice. Thanks to your site pointing me in the right direction I am aware of the true story. Thank God for your site. I am not a lawyer but in my view the Louise Nicholas trial should have been delayed until the other matters (appeals)..were finalised. There has to be a better way of seeing justice being seen to be done. We have given up the old Lord of the Manor system for a regime that is far worse. We are more and more treated like feudal serfs and this has than a smack of 'droit du seigneur' or 'jus primae noctis' (law of the first night). This will be a public relations disaster for the cops and so it must be. Hats off to the women protesters and they have my support. They are ordinaty NZers who are showing great courage in the face of bullying and bluster. I received a military decoration for gallantry but I say they are right up there.

I still can't get over the fact it was more like the trial of Louise Nicholas, it wasn't, it was the trial of Rickards, Shipton and Schollum, by now we all know that the verdict was wrong, and that the jury were not given all the evidence, how much longer is this country going to allow the Police to live unto a law of their own, and why is it that more and more GOOD POLICE OFFICERS are leaving the force? I haven't trusted the police for about 20 years, coincidence? I think not. Louise, you have to know that most of us out here believe you, and if the jury had been given the full picture, you would have had a sense of closure, YOU ARE BRAVE AND A REMARKABLE WOMAN, HOLD YOUR HEAD HIGH! Shame on the justice system, shame on a Police Administration that has lost the confidence of too many people that it serves, and too all of those GOOD COPS who are still out there, hang in there, we need you.

All I have to say is those idiots that went to the RNZPC need a kick in the side of the head, here , the police try and put on an open day for the families and kids, and this 'rent-a-crowd' shows up, with "cops rape" banners. What?? they too half assed to make the trip to the Auckland High Court, where the verdict was handed down. Everyone here bads mouth the police, because 3 individuals supposedly raped a woman cough "not guilty" cough. But then I suppose a bunch of Dero, unemployed, uni drop outs would know for certain, from hearing the case, and not just reading the herald on Sunday. Wankers.You speak of police corruption, Christ, go live in china or somewhere, and then you'll might be a little more appreciating of the good job the police do. Get a job you useless, moaning, librel, green party, pot head fucks

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