Protest Aginst NZ/AUS Troops in Tonga

Tongan people are very loving,caring and honour people but when you mess with it.Hatred,anger,destruction and no respect at all will come.Justice we need in the kingdom from Goverment to Churchs.It showing me here that the gov't did not do their job and church leaders did not do their job too.Becareful church leaders what you feed your folk with.
The troops in Tonga for peace but Tongan already peace when they get what they wanted to do.It ok for the troops to be in Tonga because not everyone are the same.Some lawless people are out there.I don't know what happen to our army and police.We need justice in this apartment.I don't know what to do but this is a call for all the churchs leader to preach the good news to the people and not politics(kosi tau).TO all the leaders don't be greedy and selfish.Remeber our motto: GOD AND TONGA ARE OUR INHERITANCE. but now ALL OUR LEADERS AND TONGA ARE OUR INHERITANCE. Remember 1 King of Tonga.Siaosi Tupou 1 says.My people and my lands are in God's hand.It ok to stand for your right but you can't know the book by the cover.You needs to read the whole book and understand the whole story.Amen!

Good on the people of Tonga for standing up for themself -hope next time they will do something worse -It simple they don't want to listen make them listen - Iam supporting the Pro-demo movement all the way

The prime minister of Tonga, Fred Sevele, should resign. It was his inept handling of the inevitable transition from autocracy to democracy which led to the rioting. The king also bears responsibility and he should be stripped of most of his powers. This will happen eventually and it will be up to the king to decide how much more property has to be destroyed and lives lost until it happens. If Australia and New Zealand wish to spend their money defending their interests in Tonga, fine. But they'll just be throwing their money away and creating longterm instability if they try to prop up the old order. Once democracy is installed, there should be an investigation into the business holdings of the royal family and how they were obtained. I'll bet a lot of back taxes could be collected to repair some of the damage done during the rioting.

only good will come out of NZ/AUS being in tonga and the govt off tonga is taking note of what the people are saying, there are some people in tonga that need to be watched and to keep them from making more mistakes and getting in to real trouble and or really hurting someone or them selves, the island will survive and coume out fine and they have in the past, the tongan people are the most wonderful on earth and will find the path and head down it and repair the island and all will be good

the Cashman family VA, USA

I don't agree with the democratic movements and attempts for a political reform in Tonga. For a good long time the beautiful island kingdom has been in order and experienced peace under the traditional monarchial system.

How can violence and chaos reflect and promote that a democratic society can successfully reign. Royals and Nobles don't fist fight during political negotiations and yet the Tongatapu's people's number 1 rep has.

The democrats' platform for change is not eligible and does not justify any capability to rule - at least those with a very sensible mind could never understand why they think they should be in power.

One thing I have seen for sure that democrats do well over the years; they are meticulous critics against government; they loathe royal positions and want to be the royals instead; their primary hobby is criticism instead of peaceful negotiation; they campaign prior to election that they are the 'it' for a people's representative - however they don't care for individuals on a personal level.

When have the people's representatives taken time out of their busy schedules' to help a commoner in need? Their ideals for change have only excited the status quo towards a mere theory only.

EXCILE THE DEMOCRATS!

Nothing can stop an idea whose time has come. Those who try to cling to the old order will only bring more suffering to Tonga. "It is not the strongest of the species that survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change." -- Charles Darwin

If anyone resembled Sadam, it was His Royal Highness King Taufa'ahau Tupou IV, RIP.

Don't take it as Peace. It is Politic.Lets give it a little change, and things will be settled unharmed. Mr Prime Minister. . Step Down . Things going worst,if you insist.kindly step down and you'll be safe. Mr King.you're alcholic so .you've lived enough luxury life with FOXES only in your head.and it's time to let the people governed their own. If it is democracy that will make them happy, GIVE IT ,WHY hold on to it.Let those people in prison free unhurt, if without your selfishness, they may not be greatly hurt.so worry now about your own security ,you're the creator of danger

A terrible nightmare has happened to us, whereever we are, us Tongans has a big loss.Our families in Tonga must be dramatized with the experience we had when 9/11 of 2000 happened. sympathize with the families of the innocent people who died in the fire, even the families of those who started the fire at the shoreline and got trapped and died. Our deported sons in Tonga have comitted henious crimes, and a lot of them, if not all, were participators of the riot, and we can reach them at the jail in Tonga, if they cant be reached in jail, then they perished in the fire.

Fred Sevele may have a PhD but it really blew it when he created the conditions that let to the rioting. After all, Sevele and the king were in power. They should have seen the trouble coming. They should have let people know what was going on instead of trying to make all the decisions behind closed doors while making people think they were only stalling. Tongans had to put up with that sort of thing for 39 years under the old king. If Sevele and the old guard try to hang on, what happened in Nukualofa last week is only the beginning....

Much appreciation is herewith convey to the Peace Action Wellington group for your support in our fight for a more Democratic Gov't here in Tonga that will further the Peace our small island has.

If the current Political System continues, there won't be any peace in our small island paradise in the future.

Don't worry there's order in Tonga already. We welcome the Aust/NZ troops to help pick up the rubbish and clean our town.

The majority of the People now are happy that they've been promised the Political Reform to take place in the next General Election in 2008. They have also submitted a petition to the King in the weekend to fire the PM & Ministers as they have been the cause of the problems here in Tonga, by not advising the King properly in order to keep the peace.

But we know our King anyway, being a stubborn spoiled brat, he wants everything and the all the little money our poor country has. The PM & Ministers should resign if they cannot do their job properly. Let the King do his own dirty work and the People will soon have him following his two Indian Business Friends to NZ.

Keep up the good work railing for Peace throughout the Pacific.

With much appreciation, A Member from the People's National Committee for Political Reform (chaired by 'Akilisi Pohiva, the People's No.1 MP) from the Heart of Nuku'alofa.

ko moutolu 'oku 'elo homou 'atamai he oku mou tukuaki'i e kakai hala.......tau tukuaki'i katoa pe 'ae vale kaita'e koena ko 'Akilisi mo 'Uliti Uata!

FINAU TUTONE....MAFUKE 'O SIKO HO TAUSESE.....OKU IKAI KE MAU VALE KAITA'E 'O HANGE KO MOU3......MATA'I 'USI EEEH....MAFUKE 'O KOLE KA PAHA'ULAA KE MAFULE MAI O FKLELEI 'A TONGA....KA IKAI PEA KE ALU KIAI KEMO SIKO LOUA AI....FULEI'I O TUKU E HELE HOLO HO LEMU .;........TALA KA 'AKILISI....TEU HAE HONO 'USI....HE KOAAA...'ULITI...MATA'I TA'E FA'ELU.....FIELAU KOHO MAFUKE MAI MEI LEMU....SIO MAI FU SIKA'I NIUA KOENA KO LEPOLO MOE TAPALII KOENA KO 'OFA SIMIKI.......MAFUKE 'O TUKU HOMO FAI E ME'A KOE AVA NOA'IA HOLO KAMO TAKITAHA MAHAE KIHONO MALI 'O KAI TA'E AI.........SA'A!.........KE MOU FAI MO 'EHO MAI KAE NONGA E FONUA!

Kalafi Moala for Prime Minister...or King

Tongan working class people uprise against your oppressor, fight imperialism, british aristocracy cleverly hidden as the tradition king system, capitalism and neo liberalism in your country.

In the past the police have imprisoned pro-democracy leaders, and the government repeatedly confiscated the newspaper The Tongan Times because the editor had been vocally critical of the king's mistakes. It is time for freedom in Tonga.

The people have spoken time and time again, they demand change, they demand accountability of the Tonga royalty, they demand freedom to read other views without the fear of arrest, they demand freedom to not be a part of the church system without fear of arrest, they demand to be treated with respect and honour, and not be patronised by the toffy nosed aristocrats filling their pockets with plunder from the Tongan people.

Uprise against Imperialism wherever it shows its ugly head!

As a gay person I had no choice but to leave Tonga for fear of reprisals. I then felt that the new king being obviously a gay man have more leniency toward the gay lifestyle and make moves to protect us but sadly it seems this is not so as he still remains in the closet.

Ko au oku ou poupou ki he liliu ke toe temokalati ange 'a Tonga, pea koe kakai lotu moe kakai ako ko 'enau founga koe alea pea alea kae 'oleva ke ma'u ha founga 'oku lelei ange. Kapau 'oku faingata'a pea kole ki he 'Otua na'e tuku kia ai 'e Tupou 'Uluaki 'a Tonga ke tokoni, 'osi pe pea hoko atu e alea. Ko e me'a ko 'eni na'e toki hoko na'e hoko pe ia he ngaahi fonua 'uli'uli na'e 'alu a Tonga 'o fakalotu'i, hange ko Vanuatu mo Solomone. Ko 'ene 'asi 'i Tonga 'Oku mahino mai 'oku tau lotu lau pe ka 'oku 'ikai ko ha fonua lotu kitautolu. Mahalo pe kuo taimi ke fusi a e lao ke a'u kae fonu 'a "Tolitoli" he kau ngaue popula he 'oku 'ikai ka nai sai'ia kinautolu he nofo malino moe fe'ofo'ofani na'e tanupou 'aki 'a Tonga.

"Ofa atu;
moe hufekina
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Here are just some random thoughts, but I don't really know many
> details. So there are higly likely to be some inaccurate things
here.
>
> It looks like the catalyst was a pro-democracy gathering on Thursday.
> Now I have heard there have been some good sized pro-democracy
rallies
> over the past month. The democratic demands of the movement are
> coming up against the institution of the monarchy. I heard (over the
> phone) that the monarchy caved into some demands in the latest
> standoff (sorry I don't know what these demands were). Nobody really
> knows who exactly started the chaos. So far the government has
blamed
> everything on the pro-democracy demonstration and declared a state of
> emergency - no meetings of more than 5 people, powers to hold people
> in detention for 2 days. Of course noone at the grassroots really
> believes the government line anyway. But they are in a state of
> shock. 2 possibilities I can think of:
> 1) Provocateurs organized the chaos to derail the movement.
> 2) Some people at the demonstration got frustrated and decided to
> hurry things up.
>
> If (2), it is probably a sign that the current stage of
> demonstrations, meetings, petitions, etc. has virtually hit the
> limits of what can be achieved without passing over to a struggle
> against the monarchy. The monarchy itself sees the logic of where
> this whole thing is heading, and consequently is going to be digging
> in for survival. It's a case of retreating and then clawing back
> again when the movement ebbs. So it would be understandable that
some
> of the young people would eventually lash out.
>
> What is the long-term perspective and what should we recommend as the
> way forward? The following events: the actions of Fred Sevele as PM,
> and then the civil servant strike, I think confirm the old marxist
law
> about the passing over of the capitalist class to the
> counterrevolution, since they are tied economically and politically
to
> the monarchy, and also the law about the working class becoming, from
> a class in itself, to a class for itself (or, growth of the working
> class means the growth of class consciousness). This process is
still
> in the early stages.
>
> Now the government will try to restore order with the help of NZ and
> Australian troops. Right now these foreign troops have a certain
> level of mana with grassroots people in Tonga. But they are
> imperialist troops serving imperialist interests.
>
> The longer the monarchy tries to perpetuate itself (with or without
> the help of Aust and NZ), eventually will turn the movement
explicitly
> against the monarchy, which would be another turning point.
>
> While the political regime has stayed the same, the economy over the
> last few decades has made a transition from "feudal with state
> capitalism" to capitalism, with members of the monarchy turning
> themselves into big capitalists.
>
> For the imperialists of Australia, New Zealand, etc. the aim is to
get
> stability under a friendly regime that gives them access to the
> resources and markets of the country. Right now I think their plan
is
> to prop up the monarchy (ie status quo), restoring order, while
trying
> to convince the King to make some reforms to diffuse the instability.
> They would also be looking for points of support in the prodemocracy
> movement. Probably also using the right wing of the union movement
> (back home).
>
> But even abolishing the current set-up for the most democratic
> constitution is not going to solve the problems as long as the
economy
> still runs on capitalism. The people want to put an end to
> corruption and nepotism, and use the resources of Tonga to benefit
the
> people as a whole. But the only way to run the industries for the
> benefit of all if the whole productive economy is under a democratic
> plan - socialism. The last thing the monarchy, business class,
> imperialists want anything to do with. The enemy is already
> anticipating this kind of trouble when they accuse the pro-democracy
> movement of "communism". So the thinking activists on our side must
> also anticipate events. A lot of people I guess are wondering what
> comes next? The main task for socialists is to present the program
> that can show the way forward - the history of workers all over the
> world show that through experience they come to the same conclusion,
> but also that a revolutionary party can get them there faster.
>
> I just found the NZ herald article and it seems like it was an
> explosion against parliament closing down and delaying the vote on
> democratic reforms till next year. When the parliament made that
> manoeveur, looks like the pro-demo leaders didn't have a plan B, so
> they did nothing. That was the last straw for some people who had to
> do something, and caught everyone by surprise.

Love that traditional Tongan royal clothing…

Big Ups to the peeps of tonga but you need to do something about that toffee-pop King of yours, he looks a bit kooky and talks like a stuck up british tea drinking fruitybix.