Activist PR
To be perfectly honest many, if not most activists are their own worst enemy. The battle we’re in at the moment is one for hearts and minds and the people who are attempting to increase their power over us know this - it's why their PR is better than ours.
I’m as short on information as everyone else but including Tame Iti in this round up is a smart move on their behalf. As far as the average white person is concerned he’s a scary looking freak who’s one of the country’s best know Maori radicals, he’s perfect for a setup.
Especially on TV it’s all about getting the superficialities right. Activists need to have tremendous discipline to make sure they play the game right in front of the media. It’s not for nothing that politicians get media training and it’s no surprise that their image doesn’t match their reality – the image is the thing that get’s them into power so that’s where most of their effort goes. I’m not asking activists to sell out like a politician of course, but I do think we need to be a hell of a lot smarter.
When I presented to my local council about Genetic Engineering, I focused a lot on the superficial aspects of the presentation. I got a haircut, I dressed up, I talked a lot about the economy and generally tried as much to look like one of them. I imagine some people would consider this to be selling out but what it really is, is removing impediments that stop conservative people from paying attention to the words coming out of our mouth.
If I could suggest anything it's to behave politely, look tidy and if you can’t remove the anger from your system and get to the level where you can share a joke with the reporter don’t talk to them. If you’re on TV especially you want to be able to smile and laugh off the police behavior. “Oh I think the cops have been watching too many Die Hard movies” said with a humorous tone will do more for our cause and more to make them appear paranoid then any amount of reasoned argument. Especially if it’s said by a good looking person.
As I said, it’s about discipline, the first activist to do anything unusual in front of a camera is going to get played ad infinitum on the box and will merely serve to reinforce the clichéd image of activists that the media has worked so hard to build up.
I think a lot of activists need to acknowledge the anger that comes out at times like this too. Feeling angry about this is entirely natural but if you get so angry you start saying the sort of stuff that is running through the comments at the moment you need to stop and take a deep breath. Here’s a comment that I did like:
"I admire anyone who is prepared to take a stand. What I don't admire is stupidity. Talk of the "enemy" and the "filth" is exactly the same melodramatic nonsense Neo-Nazis and criminals use to justify their antics. One who believes they can change the world by force is a fascist.
These sentiments are the kind of post-pubescent, purile fantasies I used to have. I have found better ways to influence people, occasionally I’ve taken it out on property. I try to avoid taking out my problems against other people. Simply because it doesn't work, and what goes around comes around….
The real enemy is within…"
Later the same person made this comment:
"Many laws and rules are unjust. However, it depends entirely on what and who you are dealing with. If you treat an individual with disrespect, would that person be likely to warm to your message and treat you well?"
So who is our enemy here? The people behind this definitely see us as their enemy, I don’t doubt that, but how high up do you have to go find those people? Certainly the cops on the street and the bureaucrats working for the state or for corporations - even journalists - are people we should be befriending (with care of course). In fact the people who are being used against us are the ones we should especially be befriending – it will make it very hard for them to do their job if they know us as real people.
As for the solidarity issue, if anyone has been unjustly treated they get my total support but if some of these people are stupid enough to do what the police say they are doing then we need to at least consider cutting them free. First of all resorting to arms won’t achieve anything. Resorting to arms is how this country was settled – if fighting didn’t work for the minority then it won’t work now. Secondly it’s stupid PR. The powers that be love it when people like this turn up, people always support their leadership when they feel threatened - even the most unpopular president in US history, George Bush, got huge support after 9-11.
In fact, if these people didn’t exist the government would have to invent them.



Comments
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'befriending the cops'?
The filth truly are the enemy. Hope you don't have to find out the hard way.
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In fairness, theres a big difference between befriending the filth and avoiding giving the bastards an excuse to steal your liberty.
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was this written by bomber?
you arent part of the movement - go write some more articles for murdoch
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I wrote it. My name is Aaron like it says at the top - do you need me to post a CV or references or something? I'm not Bomber either, not that it matters, the arguement stands on it's own regardless of who typed it.
I didn't say you should trust the cops, only treat them like real people. They are real people, they have a value system and we can work it to our advantage. People have to dehumanise other people (meaning see them as sub-human) before they can do things like beat them up. If you behave like you currently are they'll have no trouble seeing you as sub-human. I don't necessarily mean that as an insult, it's just the process that goes on in everyone's minds, it's the same as the way you look at them - as mere filth.
If it makes you feel better to verbally abuse cops I can't stop you but my main point is not to do it where the public can see you. By doing so you play right into the hands of the people who really are our enemy. These same people are also the enemy of the cops who they are just using as brainwashed tools incidently.
That is the big picture. While we're all distracted fighting between cops and activists, or black and white or religious and non religious, these people are happy because we're not noticing how the world is changing.
Quite by coincidence I got a new passport posted to me today, it's got a microchip in it which is just one more step in the process of gaining control over the population. Passing new anti terrorism laws is another step and these arrests are meant to help that along. If you insist on abusing the cops please, please do so in private because if you do it in public all you do is help that process on a little bit more.
This is serious stuff and we can't afford to drop the ball, I'm not asking you to try to like cops or anything like that - just to be aware that what they are trying to do is manipulate the public into thinking activists are terrorists and that we would be foolish to do anything that helps that along.
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Are you two above trying to do some bad parody of Neil from the Young Ones or are you just that stupid?
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no, simple question - who wrote the article?
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there are soem good points here.
to win broad support, use positive language like free the greenies. i abhor racism, but most poeple dont, especially the racists.
make the message about peoples lives, like saying the police are bullies, talk about Tame's mokopuna, to humanise the whole scenario.
so there are good points if u read between the lines of this korero
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sensible analysis. reaction will depend on whether people examine their egoes and motives, and decide they want to be effective. or alternately, maintain a state of 'permanent resistance' that will achieve a state of self-righteous martyrdom.
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Has anyone else noticed that arguments (like the above) about why we should turn our back on Tame and his friends in Tuhoe are exactly the same arguments about how we should turn our backs on the Iraqi resistance?
For the pampered liberal media elite who like to think they're radical, "their own" government, cops and troops are always the devil-you-know.
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Will I have to clarify every second comment here?
I said IF what the police are saying is true then we should CONSIDER cutting people loose. It's a big 'if'.
In no way am I saying we should decide at this stage not to support anyone. My guess is that the cops are stretching reality to make it fit their, or someone else's (above them) agenda. It's what I thought the minute I heard the news and it's what I still think.
The main thrust of that paragraph was to say that violent resistance in NZ at this time will a) not work and b)play into the hands of people who want to increase their control over us.
Aaron
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"violent resistance in NZ at this time will a) not work and b)play into the hands of people who want to increase their control over us."
That much I agree with. But I do NOT agree that this means that we should "cut people loose" who may have been making plans in that direction. We might disagree with and disavow their plans, but the people are our friends, partners, comrades etc and if we cut them loose we do the State's work for them.
As far as I know, not even the cops are claiming that anyone was hurt or any property was damaged by the acts of these people.
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Has anyone else noticed that arguments (like the above) about why we should turn our back on Tame and his friends in Tuhoe are exactly the same arguments about how we should turn our backs on the Iraqi resistance?
For the pampered liberal media elite who like to think they're radical, "their own" government, cops and troops are always the devil-you-know.
ummm
macquuarie dictionary].terrorism,1 the use of terrorising methods.2 the state of fear or submission so produced.3a method of resisting a goverment or- governing by deliberate acts of armed violence.who are the terrorists
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What kind of analysis do you have on Te Manamotuhake o Tuhoe? You should check yourself... talking about the validity , in your eyes, of any action they choose. Nevermind telling everyone else how they should / shouldn't be acting.
ummm
sorry, read last line ,the only people who have actually been terrorised by an act deliberate armed violence, are the people of tuhoe and thier supporters ,so agian i ask who are the terrorist.
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From a Tino Rangatiratanga perspective the biggest problem is we will never have mainstream pakeha recognition, they either believe we have no claim or that we are incapable of economic participation (which is of course based on the presumption that maori would choose this system ).
Nah they're more than happy to claim responsibility for the autonomy reclaimed by our South African brothers and sisters... but that for Maori? Nah we weren't here long enough apparently, or maybe we just arent enough maori to be maori, or maybe THEY just can't live up to this liberal-nuke-free-greeny-native-loving self image that they keep selling the world
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some of us stand by the activists in tough times, stand by tuhoe and maori no matter what middle class liberals think.
aaron if u support armed police raiding a pensioner and a school bus so be it, dont try to get people to ditch on those have made stands on all manner of issues in aotearoa time and time again.
chris trotter i believe takes the line you and bomber take - the movement doesnt. go join labour if u support the crackdown.
stand proud, stick together
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This is getting incredibly frustrating, sometimes I wonder if we speak the same language. How the hell do you get the idea that I support the police raiding anybody? Show me where I say that.
For the record. I do not support police raids. This whole thing stinks - it's clearly a PR stunt against the entire activist community.
I say it again. It's a PR stunt against the activist community. We have to understand that they are working to turn public opinion against us and that our job is to oppose that by taking PR issues into account in ALL our actions.
Anyone who promotes the idea of violent revolution in New Zealand at this time is giving a massive gift to the powers that be. They will and ARE NOW using it to tar all of us. Anyone who promotes violent revolution in New Zealand at this time is undermining all the work that the rest of us are doing and they're making it really easy to get so-called anti-terror laws passed.
If anything they are the ones not keeping solidarity with the rest of us because of the damage they cause - except at this moment in time I don't actually know if they have done what the police claim so the discussion is only theoretical. At the moment they get my total support because it's obvious the cops and the people above them are up to something dodgy
It's such an effective tool to use against us that I would just presume that there are agent-provocateurs out there specifically in place to encourage people to do this - and if that doesn't work they'll pay people to pretend to do it, or even actually do it themselves as a last resort
Aaron
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Yeah, I have to agree with Aaron here. IF and only IF the police have proper evidence that people are guilty of violence or plotting violence, then cutting loose from them seems like a good idea.
You might know that X, Y and Z are peace loving people, and there's no way that they were involved in anything untoward, but the public and the media don't know that. So when you have demonstrations calling for the release of these prisoners, it really does sound like you're supporting people who are "violent terrorists". Remember, most people have some doubts about the police, but on the whole trust them. The activist movement should be challenging the police and questioning their evidence, rather than asserting the innocence of the accused. I think that maintaining this distinction is incredibly important. If you assert someone's innocence, then the first thing a journalist is going to think is - 'how do you know that?' I know I would. My experience of journalists is that they're generally suspicious of everyone (but not sufficiently suspicious of particular people and institutions).
Failure to maintain this distinction falls right into the state's trap, which is to associate and conflate mainstream activists with 'terrorism'.
Personally, I believe that how 'you' frame the issue is incredibly important. There's a propaganda war being waged here, and at this stage, I think the police are winning, but only just.
The above post was incredibly important, and I'm saddened but not surprised to see the level of vitriol it has incurred, as if questions about tactics are tantamount to treachery. It's this non-reflexive thinking that dooms any intellectual endeavour, and when we're under siege, it's both more inviting than ever, and more dangerous.
Stay human.
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Hell no.
Making differentiations between "acceptable/legitimate" and "unacceptable/illegitimate" protest is the job of the State (so frequently supported by groups like Greenpeace and the Green Party), not anarchists and other grassroots activists.
I don't give the slightest fuck what the police evidence is - those arrested have my wholehearted solidarity.
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What if they had been fucking children? Would they still have your solidarity? If we don't make any moral judgments, why don't we support the fash when they are arrested for bashing immigrants?
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" IF and only IF the police have proper evidence that people are guilty of violence or plotting violence, then cutting loose from them seems like a good idea." Eh?
Fuck this bullshit moralism. While i don't believe in unconditional support of anyone, to put it real simplistically i HOPE there's an insurrectionary army planning to confront the state somewhere in Aoteroa and i hope it's Maori-led. The colonised people of the world have only got what's theirs by taking direct struggle (and this includes Gandhi's India) to the state and not letting liberal moralists impede them. Especially if those liberal moralists happen to be white.
The state are willing to send balalclava-clad paramilitary with assault rifles into our homes and communities and you expect us not to be prepared? They killed Freddie Hampton in his bed. They've killed many, many others in Aotearoa and here in Oz and you'd still sit there in your comfort saying things aren't really taht bad yet... maybe not for you, but it sure is for many others.
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If those arrested are guilty of planning violence, they have my wholesale opposition. Fuck this endorsement of violence.
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No, I understand very well the brutality of the state, and it's use of violence, and how it comes into homes and communities and spreads fear and brutality. I've seen enough police brutality with my own eyes. And it is for that reason that I totally oppose this kind of action.
You think you can outshoot the state? You think you have more guns than the police or the SAS, that the state won't return it it way harder than you can give it? You gotta be fucking kidding me!
The state will __always_ protect it's monopoly on violence - it is the only thing it has.
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To the above , not sure were your guys values are , I would never , have never , would never at all , consider cutting any one loose , what ever that means , its about whanau , hapu , Iwi , being Maori , the Maori Nation , How any one not matter what could even consider disconnecting from their own is so colonised sorry , if someone does wrong and if , they have the right to address that , but must be supported by the whanau , haou , Iwi ( community ) thats the problem , its all about punishment , bad , wrong , disown......
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I wish I hadn't put that line in now because it's distracting from the main issue which is that this is a propaganda war.
I thought it followed on logically that publicly promoting violent overthrow plays into the hands of the people pushing the propaganda but it wasn't worth making the comment especially when the facts are in such short supply.
The main thing is that this is a propaganda war - It's possibly the main front that they are fighting us on and we need to pay more attention to it because it doesn't matter how awesome our arguments are or how corrupt our opponents are if mainstream New Zealand looks at us and thinks 'there goes another bloody radical'. Which they currently do.
Aaron
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I should add that I basically agree with what you said. My original comment was meant to be a minor aside but I need to revise it to be more along the lines of publically stating that we oppose violent revolution (takes care of the PR) and then welcome people back into the fold and try to privately talk them around.
You're right that separation will only serve the interests of the powers that be. Please excuse my bad Pakeha reflexes. Given time for reflection I would usually promote the same idea.
I should add that although I think that in New Zealand right now armed struggle is counter productive, there is a time and place as the occasional historical experience has shown (For instance the Jews in Warsaw who opposed the Nazis had a better chance of survival that those who bowed down to them). We are of course a long way away from that situation where the State has become so openly violent that you might increase your survival chances (and those of your family and community) by taking up arms.
The key message for anyone keen on armed resistance is that it never works unless the people in the mainstream are fully behind it - otherwise, as someone said above, the State will protect it's monopoly on violence. And I would add, use it's well oiled propaganda system to reinforce it's position.
Aaron