Protests rock Meat Industry Conference

what a knob ,dk

stop making me laugh ,pure drivel

ok ,again the same sad individual posting absolutely pathetic nonsense,the AR movement does engage in debate ,but not with the likes of this fool..get a life

Well, if you look in different dictionaries murder doesn't apply solely to humans.To assume that is anthropocentric (using that word makes me sound pretty uppity doesn't it):

Murder:to kill or slaughter inhumanly or barbarously

To kill brutally or inhumanly.

To kill intentionally and with premeditation.

I would argue that the meat industry is indeed mass murder. Regardless of the semantics of one word, the meat industry takes a lot of life on a MASS scale. More often than not it(the killing) is inhumane,cruel, and often in violation of work safety and animal welfare regulations. The meat and dairy industry creates a huge amount of environmental damage, so if you don't care about animal welfare, take some self consideration into account.

If you can get over the fact you like the taste of something and want to perhaps look at a more sustianable and humane diet you might want to read "The Ethics of What We Eat" by Peter Singer.
Or "Diet for a New America" by Tim Robbins.(I think it's Tim). If you can't be bothered reading try watching "Fast Food Nation" A dramatised version of Eric Scholossers excellent book Fast Food Nation. The scenes within the slaughter house were shot in a REAL Mexican slaughter house.

It’s highly disappointing to see so many remarks have been deleted associated with this article. It appears on the surface that free thinking individuals aren’t allowed to express their reasonable views even though some of them go against the widely held opinion here that animal rights is the be all and end all of the universe.

Is this forum becoming another nanny/police situation, where everyone has to be politically correct, which according to some is horrifying? Or is it that some of the editors have let some power go to their heads? Otherwise, have they been allowed to be dominated by the fear and paranoia of a small number of people or by a few that were distressed by what was written? Either way, the possibly of any of these scenarios is exceedingly terrifying!

I have been watching with interest as this forum unfolds and most of the comments that have been taken down were adult even though some were a bit critical and judgemental. The comments that included name calling, including dk, needed to go but the rest were OK. If anyone were upset over them I think they are overly sensitive and need to take a step back for a while to calm down. (Unfortunately I can’t seem to find the comments that were deleted at http://indymedia.org.nz/newswire/hidden/index.php or at similar internet page, so people can’t determine for themselves if they needed to be pulled or not.)

I hope that the editors here won’t be so overbearing and heavy-handed in the future. Also, they won’t go overboard in the censorship.

Before you know it, Sue Bradford would come up with a meat anti-smaking bill, and there you can't use reasonable force to lead it to the slaughter let alone killing it...

There's a book about a study of the bird flu that states almost all the major epidemics among humans since like the 20th Century began or something have been a result of factory farming animals and the way animals are kept and slaughtered that has resulted in the dire threats from influenza and like a half dozen other viruses -- all the deadliest diseases that have faced and are to face humans.

the monster at our door: the global threat of avian bird flu

the monster at our door: the global threat of avian bird flu

Phil, don't you believe that our animal buddies deserve better than what you learned in uni.? It's them that lose out in the end if we can't do better than what mainstream society provides, that includes moral normative statements.

It’s a shame that the vegan/animal rights people can’t do better in their arguments since the ones I’ve meet seem an intelligent bunch.

Meat comes from animals like Peter Davis

get lost ,peter davis ,aka dk

Pigs are my favourite animal.
I have 13 kune kune pigs.
And they're smarter than the people who think they're cool by eating them.