Urewera 17 Update: Bail Denied, Another Police Raid, Another Activist Named, Wellington Activists Moved

do any of these people work for a living, or are all on benfits of one type or another.
It would be nice to hear what their contribution to society is, other than their constant bitching and play acting at how hard done by they are

just one thing, what does work have to do with what u are sayin, mr anon?

Why is there no mention on backgrounds or charges in this article. It really is badly written, for only those who just want to be in on this without any concern for truth (since this is not revealed) or who already know the context would want to form an opinion. If that is Indy's aim, I am very sorry, in numerous ways...but I hope not!

Without any background knowledge about the group and the way they operate (which I find very important information!)I had a look at their website anyway. I must say that it is a good idea to listen more to Maori wisdom (as it says about people being connected to nature, here it was the water), since it states the same wisdom as scientific knowledge (e.g. and foremost, kwantumn fysics) is beginning to reveal to us, the general public as well.
Nonetheless I would start with the following question: what are members of a so-called peacefull movement doing with guns?

How is this fair? You just deleted my prior comment(27th october)? I thould this site is aiming at letting people know what's going on. So if you're not really clear and someone comments on that you erase it?
What does that say about this site I wonder? And you should!

An idealist at soul, heart and mind

Message starts from ALF

FREE RANGE LIONS ARE HAPPY LIONS,
LIBERATE ALL DOLPHINS AND FISH,
LET GO ALL BEES,
MEATEATERS SHOULD GET A JOLLY WONDERFUL SMACKING,
THERE WILL BE NO NAVANA UNTIL ALL ANIMALS ARE ROMAING UNINHIBITED, RELESED FROM EVERY WHIP AND CHAINS!!!

Message ends

I don't believe anyone on a benefit should be able to vote. You get parties like Labour effectively buying votes by providing benefits to societies rejects. It's these rejects that are currently involved in these serious charges; I blame the greenies and the labour government for- sponsoring terrorism

If you are taking a benefit i.e, you have your hand out, then you’re not contributing; education, health, infrastructure, treaty settlements, elderly care etc. Why should you have a voice, and why do you have access to social serviced that you have not earned.- it’s sic

As for white collar crime, good on them, if they are smart enough to get away with it. After all you’re too smart to work; the difference is you’re legally allowed to be a parasite.

And for those Maori feebly attempting too embrace the Celtic belief systems, of their most recent forefathers the trick is, abandon the affairs of man .if you want to connect with the universe, our ancestors, the three worlds – it lies in your ability to form a “gees” with that part of your environment that allows you too see- involving yourself in the affairs of man will blind you <sic> “how can you hear what the birds have to say, if all you can hear is people talking”

"Society's rejects" - smells like nazism.

I don't get this name suppression stuff--shouldn't we be shouting those names as we march down the street? Honorig that insane law is teh last thing we should be doing. Does any body have the courage to list them so I would have a list to start shouting? Names to post on placards on our motorways and round-abouts...If I am going to get charged for saying a name, then bring it on.

And if family and friends camped out in front of where these 17 are held, and if some even announced a hunger strike...this would begin to be resolved at a pace other than that set by the police or court authorities and the press, both domestic and foreign, would see that this is far from a 'terror' operation.

Don't feed the Trolls. Especially the one in the comments above. He sounds like he's bursting at the seams with irrational hate. I hope one day he can find love and compassion in his heart and see what is really important in life.

This is plain dull! www.caff.org.nz is much more important!