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17 activists arrested, denied bail. 300+ Police raid houses across the country

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In a wave of massive state repression, 300+ Police, in many cases armed, raided houses around the country today making 17 arrests. Search warrants were carried out in Auckland, Whakatane, Ruatoki, Hamilton, Palmerston North, Wellington and Christchurch. Police are also seeking up to 60 people for questioning. The arrestees are all activists in the Tino Rangatiratanga, peace and environmental movements.

Prominent Tino Rangatiratanga activist Tame Iti was among the first arrested at his home at 4am Monday morning. At 6am raids were carried out at A Space Inside anarchist social centre in Auckland [ Search Warrant ] and the 128 activist Community Centre in Wellington [ Video of police raid ]. In Tuhoe Country, the town of Ruatoki was blockaded by armed police for several hours, with no cars allowed in and many searched, including a school bus full of children.

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14 of the arrestees appeared in court hearings in Auckland, Rotorua and Wellington this afternoon and were all refused bail. All but two recieved name supression. They have all been charged under the Arms Act with various offences relating to alleged possesion of various firearms and ammunition. More charges may be added in the future.

Links: Video interview with Annette Sykes, lawyer for Tame Iti | TV3 News video | Please remember security culture

The four Wellington arrestees (2 women and 2 men) have recieved a total of 20 charges. On Wednesday they will be back in court as the prosecution attempts to move their trial to Auckland, while they will have an opportunity to apply for bail hearing on Friday.

5 arrestees (1 woman and 4 men) in Auckland will remain in custody until Friday while a 6th, Jamie Beattie Lockett, who faces 3 charges under the Firearms Act, will have a bail hearing Tuesday morning.

An arrestee in the Hamilton District Court, charged with 6 charges, will appear in the Auckland District Court on Friday.

In Rotorua, Tame Iti, facing 8 charges, will have a bail application heard Tuesday at 3pm. A woman in the Rotorua District Court, facing 5 charges, has been remanded in custody for 2 weeks, although will be allowed to apply for bail during that time.

The Police will make a decision in the coming days/weeks as to whether they will apply to the Solicitor General to allow charges to be laid under the 2002 Terrorism Supression Act. If they do get permission, it would be the first time charges have been laid under the act. There may still be more arrests and more charges as well.

UPDATES

Tuesday 16th

12:10pm - Jamie Beattie Lockett, who faces three charges under the arms act, was released on bail after a hearing in the Auckland District Court today.

12:43pm - Word is that people in Auckland are now being called in by Police for questioning. Our love and solidarity to all, and we strongly urge you to make no comment.

12:55pm - Supporters delivered reading material and money to the four Wellington arrestees last night and this morning.

3:12pm - A report back from the Melbourne Solidarity Demo said there were around 30 people and lots of media.

7:08pm-Closeup just reported that the High Court has ordered Jamie Lockett to be put back behind bars after the Crown appealed the decision to grant him bail.

 
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Wellington Meeting

Tuesday 7:30pm 128 Abel Smith Street.

This meeting will be hosted by Peace Action Wellington but open to anyone who wants to constructively discuss a reaction to Monday's events.

See you there!
 

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i know you are good people but peaceful protest against what is happening to you and to our brothers and sisters around the country inst peacefull now is it I say let us rise and strike down those who have inflicted their pain into the Name of Freedom. All Power to the People
 

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There was no judgement implied in that statement as to whether protest should be peaceful or not.
 

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all protest in this matter must be peaceful. We must make the general public aware of the wrongness of these arrests and the true nature of the arrestees. we should not on any account provoke violence nor advocate violence. just clarifying
 

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Its time to rise get off your asses and fight against the hitlers new regieme called the NZ Govt. The Gestapo (NZ Police) need to learn that we as the people of this land will not bow down to dictatorship nor to corruption of our rights. We will not lay down but we will fight for our freedom. All Power To The People
 

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GODWIN'S LAW.

Although this action is one I am strongly against, name calling like this does not help, only serves as a knee jerk reaction. For God's sake, look at some where there's more severe, more real oppression like, say BURMA.
 

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Are you a shill?
 

Re: Re: Wellington Meeting

I mean you Michael de Angelo. Are you a shill?
 

Re: Re: Re: Wellington Meeting

Why would he be a shill?
I happen to agree with him.
Workers unite!
 

Re: 17 activists arrested, denied bail. 300+ Police raid houses across the country

There will be a meeting tomorrow (Tuesday) to discuss today's arrests under the Suppression of Terrorism act and our response. Tuesday 7:30pm 128 Abel Smith Street.

This meeting will be hosted by Peace Action Wellington but open to anyone who wants to support the arrestees and discuss a reaction to Monday's events.

See you there!
 

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Love, Hugs and Solidarity to those in Wellington from a couple of Aucklanders. Hope that door isn't too tricky to fix, although I imagine it being a less stressful part of the day :(
 

Re: 17 activists arrested, denied bail. 300+ Police raid houses across the country

There will be a demo outside Wellington district court at 2pm on Wednesday in solidarity with the arrestees.
 

Re: 17 activists arrested, denied bail. 300+ Police raid houses across the country

Given that they now no-doubt have a number of computers belonging to arrestees, I'd like to HIGHLY RECCOMEND that any arrestees be taken off any non-totally-public email lists they are currently on. When they're free they can be re-added.
 

Re: 17 activists arrested, denied bail. 300+ Police raid houses across the country

love & solidarity to all of you arrested & raided & dealing with the shit happening to yr friends.

there'll be a solidarity action in sydney soon, i'll post details when i get them.
 

Re: 17 activists arrested, denied bail. 300+ Police raid houses across the country

warm greetings from a land in central Europe, far, far away. kia kaha, sisters and brothers!
 

Re: 17 activists arrested, denied bail. 300+ Police raid houses across the country

has the indymedia NZ any IRC channels ?

i would like to get some info on this.
the media here talks about terror camps and its really hard to get an idea about whats going on.

please write me at: takecaregivelove (at) gmail . com
 

Re: Re: 17 activists arrested, denied bail. 300+ Police raid houses across the country

Yes, #aotearoa on the irc.indymedia.org server. Visit chat.indymedia.org for more information.
 

Re: Re: 17 activists arrested, denied bail. 300+ Police raid houses across the country

In Te Ture Whenua Maori/Maori land Act it states in the preamble three main principals
1. The special relationship between the Queen and the Maori People (not the Clowns in Wellington)
2. The Protection of Kawanatanga for the protection of Rangatiratanga
3. Land as Taonga Tuku iho of special significance to maori.
Maori are not terrorists as they are living their rights under the declaration of independence 1835.
However the same cannot be said for Helen Clark's parliament circus who have no constitution as jefferey palmer done away with that right.
These people are merely hunters and food gatherers.
 

Re: 17 activists arrested, denied bail. 300+ Police raid houses across the country

I dont hate the idea of Government infact i welcome any Govt that means what it says and does what it means but that is only in fairy tales unless we as the people do something about it.
Its time to rise get off your asses and fight against the hitlers new regieme called the NZ Govt. The Gestapo (NZ Police) need to learn that we as the people of this land will not bow down to dictatorship nor to corruption of our rights. We will not lay down but we will fight for our freedom. All Power To The People
 

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Comparing NZ govt. to Hitler's regime is cliched and superficial. Mr de Angelo you speak in a way that makes parady of the loony left so easy. Breath through your nose until you learn what has happened to whom and why. If you are representaive of the intellectual rigour of the left in NZ you may as well trade in your Che t-shirts and berets now - you're a boy on a man's mission.
 

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this boy you think you reffer to isnt liking what is spoken if your mouth was as nasty as your words actually are then why are you still watching this and not out working on helping our brothers and sister caught by the law for standing up for freedom a boy on a mans mission doesnt spend 7 years in prison for beleiving in letting freedom live so you should shut you trap and post your name you coward
 

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Someone who doesn't post their name calling another person a coward for not posting their name? How odd.
 

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Cliched? Hitler called those who burnt down the Riechstag "terrorists" - not so cliched. Bush used the term as did the British in India. Not so cliched.
 

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Why don't you just wait until the next election. It's only a year away. Wouldn't that be easier that dying in a pool of your own blood.
 

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I always thought paranoia was a trait predominant in te far right until I read this thread. Folks, there is no conspiracy of the Illuminati, Opus Dei, the Free Masons, the International Cabal of Jewish Wickedness and the japanese Whalers. It is all in your heads.

What we have is a bunch of old farts and a few naive hangers on, whodreamed of being soldiers. They liked to play Che Guevara in the backwoods. The police got wind of it, had a look, spotted that the would-be warriors had guns that weren't legal, heard some found-the-camp-fire bullshit and misconstrued the whole thing as a terorist plot. It will all get sorted out. Some of those who have been apprehended probably have nothing to complain about, as they gave the police enough evidence to suspect there might have been a plot.

Comparing this to Nazi Germany, Palestine, or anything else is ludicrous and silly. Right wingers must be reading this thread and pissing themselves with laughter.
 

Re: 17 activists arrested, denied bail. 300+ Police raid houses across the country

Mmmm...it looks like some have been very, very naughty and deserve a jolly good spanking. Oh well, they will be getting no presents from me this year – instead they will be getting a lump of coal.

Father Christmas
 

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Hohohohohoho................
 

Re: 17 activists arrested, denied bail. 300+ Police raid houses across the country

After reading the comments here its no wonder no one listens to the so called Peace Movement any more.

What kind of peace activists run around with AK47's and Molotov cocktails?
 

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I recommend people research the concept of "COINTELPRO"

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO

The quickest way to destroy a peaceful protest or movement is to make it perceived to be violent.
 

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Wow, Sun Tzu would've be proud of this!

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Tzu

This is The Art of War in practice alright!
 

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A Molotov Cocktail is just a bottle with petrol in it.
 

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Th epolice have actually kept pretty quiet. They've been badgered into making some statements by the media, but they haven't been leaking prejudicial information left right and centre like the AFP did during the Haneef case. So accusing them of "PR and self justification" is unwarrnted. They've been asked about a story with a high public interest index, they've given some information explaining why they thought it necessary to take action, nothing more.
 

Re: 17 activists arrested, denied bail. 300+ Police raid houses across the country

The same geniuses who don't see the hypocrisy in protesting against a weapons conference and then running around with AK 47's and Molotov Cocktails in the name of peace.

Using violence to attack democracy is apparently the new modus operandi of the 'peace' movement.
 

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Who says the peace activists are running around with guns and Molatov cocktails? Have you seen them? Or do you just believe everything anyone tells you if they are wearing a suit? If so why? After Shipton and the cop in Hamilton do you honestly think a cop can't lie? And have you been living in a cave all your life, that you think a suit can't lie?

Be careful making potentially libelous statements with no proof.

Phil
 

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Of course cops can lie. But is unlikely they'd tell such a stupidly big lie as this. It is also unlikely they'd all lie in sync, with government and media collusion. While the world will always be round, regardless of what people thing, if enough people tell me something happened such and such a way, and without evidence to the contrary, I'll tend to listen to them than the few voices on the fringe. Otherwise, I'd be a Holocaust denier.
 

Re: 17 activists arrested, denied bail. 300+ Police raid houses across the country

Even Ross Meurant thinks this is a beat up. Guys, please - those of us who would believe for a minute that the Auckland or Wellington arrestees would be so stupid as to stash submachine guns under the stairs or whatever obviously have no clue what they're talking about and are simply repeating media lies.
 

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Comrades,

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LONG LIVE LAMA!

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So instead of supporting them support an animal rights group for a better more compassionate and equal new world.

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Bring on the brave new world!!!!!
 

Re: 17 activists arrested, denied bail. 300+ Police raid houses across the country

The police are struggling to recruit their 1000 new frontline staff because - despite the fact that you don't have to read and you get a teacher-size salary without the years of study and the student debt - on the whole most people are pretty decent and the cops are not.
They're struggling with allegations of rape and deceit. They have to go on the offensive and this is their chance.
It's been a two-year investigation apparently. I would be underwhelmed to learn that an element of entrapment is involved.
 

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It seems bizarre to me that at the end of this two year operation the cops still didn't have search warrants for the SHVC houses they tried to get into... There'd have to be something else going on behind it all. It could be that they're just trying to (re)gain some public confidence
 

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Hey dude

who writes about cops receiving a teacher sized salary, school teachers are under paid.
 

Re: 17 activists arrested, denied bail. 300+ Police raid houses across the country

Solidarity to all those arrested. This is something that all New Zealanders should be worried about. The fact that they targeted activists speaking out against an unjust global order is all too familiar historically and we should be worried about where this is leading. All you need to look at is Latin America in the 60's - 80's to see this. We need to be actively fighting this kind of government action and be vigilant with questioning the medias role in it. Why did TV cameras just happen to be on Abel Smith St at 6am?
 

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Where does it say the activists are speaking out against an unjust global order? I have never been involved in a peace movement before but if that is what they are against, how do I join up?
 

prisoner solidarity

lettersforprisoners (at) riseup.net

distribute this to your friends around the world!

letters will be printed and sent to various prisons around the country to the detained political prisoners of the 15ths raids...

-Gwilym
 

Re: 17 activists arrested, denied bail. 300+ Police raid houses across the country

Please dont call Tuhoe nutters. You know nothing about Tuhoe at all. Which one of you is Tuhoe? Perhaps you should talk to tuhoe before you go mouthing off calling people nutters. Another example of people believe main stream media. And another case of maori bashing. Tis isnt about maori this is about all of us. Lets work together to show them that we dont like this and we will say no when and if we think it needs to be said. Work together.

and to all arrested, to all being questioned. Taku aroha ki a koutou katoa.
Kia kaha e hoa maa

We walk with you. This is all our struggles.
 

Re: 17 activists arrested, denied bail. 300+ Police raid houses across the country

judging by some of the comments on here there's a LOT to be concerned about!

It's like talking to a bunch of fanatics, you'll have an answer for everything and that's the scariest thing. I know anarchists, I've protested for peace etc etc etc but to your average NZer this is way over and above what is necessary....

Go on, call me ignorant and naive but really this is no way to get the country's support.
 

Re: 17 activists arrested, denied bail. 300+ Police raid houses across the country

... sorry where is the comment about Tuhoe being nutters? I've read all these posts and can't find it myself.

even more of a worry when people read way more into things than they should.
 

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Native Revolutions film festival tonite Taupo
REAP centre.
We will be showing the "Tuhoe History of resistance" along with a korero from a member of Te Mana Motuhake o Tuhoe.
Also other indigenous films showing.
7:30pm REAP centre Taupo.
73 Titiraupenga St.
$10 entry
 

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Re: 17 activists arrested, denied bail. 300+ Police raid houses across the country

I live in one of the Auckland houses the police raided yesterday morning...

Big thanks to Indy Media and everyone for your support!!!
 

Re: 17 activists arrested, denied bail. 300+ Police raid houses across the country

Im no Greenpeace or Activist. But I want to say this. Im happy for people to have their opinions on if any given Government is doing things right or wrong. Or if any system needs to be looked at etc.

What happened on Monday seems very sensational, and a little alarming. Perhaps part of the media hype, perhaps not.

Perhaps even over reported... Maybe they were running a simple exercise camp.. Who knows..

BUT when the report says they seized a Napalm Bomb.. Come on.. People i dont care what you think about this groups intentions...

A Napalm bomb is good for only one thing.. This group needs to be seriously questioned and investigated...

I want to support the police on this one. I do not think they have over stepped their powers, but the challenge is that they do not push too hard past that boundry.

However I suspect with this group they wont need to overstep the mark as they seem to be already in that lunatic fringe section.
 

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You are clearly certain that they even had napalm? Where did you get that from the news? If you are satisfied to lay blind trust in the media you are clearly lacking in the brain department. Who knows what they had at least wait till the facts are out to judge.
 

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In fairness, the Napalm was most likely Iti's homebrew.
 

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Any group would have to be on the lunatic fringe having Jamie Lockett as a member. He is mad and a complete wanker.
 

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There's a Sydney solidarity demo tomorrow (Wednesday 17)
8.45am
New Zealand Consulate-General, level 10, 55 hunter
street. Nearest train station is Martin Place.
 

Re: 17 activists arrested, denied bail. 300+ Police raid houses across the country

from what I know about NZ, you all need to start shooting the cops long ago. and the courts are even more corrupt, so shoot the crap judges too!
 

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The voice of fascism, in pure form.
 

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NZ POLICE: OUR LARGERST TERROR ORGANISATION.
 

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I agree with your comment and go further to say The biggest white power gang in New Zealand who have a patch that allows them to get away with killing and raping people
 

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Wasn't Rickards Maori?
 

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They didn't get away with it, though, did they? Three of the four are now in jail. The other is so discredited he'll likely lose his job. Not a perfect result, but hardly getting away with it.

Remember what Louise Nicholas said:

"I would like to thank Operation Austin, these are decent police officers who have toiled away from their families for more than three years. They have done their duty and they have restored the faith and trust I lost a long time ago in New Zealand police."

Tarring all police with the same brush is unfair and silly.
 

Wanting to contribute towards defence funds

Hi, I was wondering if a defence fund has been established to help the arrestees, as I would like to be able to contribute to this.
 

Re: Wanting to contribute towards defence funds

Yes. I don't have the details, but they will be posted on indymedia later.
 

Re: 17 activists arrested, denied bail. 300+ Police raid houses across the country

NZ POLICE:OUR LARGEST TERROR ORGANISATION
 

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Too right.
 

Re: 17 activists arrested, denied bail. 300+ Police raid houses across the country

I wonder about a hypothetical scenari... series of peacefully blockaded coal trains demanding charges be dropped and apologies be made as well as against (of course) climate change. direct action got their attention. direct action works.
 

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perhaps we could take a leaf out of the deforestaion protestors in south america's book and tie our selves to the tracks? after calling the correct authorities, of course, don't want any one getting run over. that or just remove a section of track. Wouldn't be that difficult at all.
 

Re: 17 activists arrested, denied bail. 300+ Police raid houses across the country

Sounds like a good idea.

Who can organise it? Unite?
 

Re: 17 activists arrested, denied bail. 300+ Police raid houses across the country

Solidarity and kia kaha to all who have been fighting hard for the rights and struggle for us-the people! and who have been wrongly accused by the repressive cloud of political nutters. WE must unite. We must fight back!
 

Re: 17 activists arrested, denied bail. 300+ Police raid houses across the country

Peace doesn't just happen, it'll have to be fought for. Pacifists can sit around pleading to their govt to give them peace all they want but it won't happen. And as a local Koori MC from Redfern had the crowd chant at a show on Friday - 'freedom before peace, my people before police'.

Just look at Burma, enough people for a revolution but the violence of the army and police crushes the movement. We need both broad support but also the willingness to stand up and fight back.

Solidarity from Mutineers in Sydney. There'll be an action here Wednesday morning.
 

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We don't need to fight for peace. New Zealand is generally a peaceful place, unless you're silly enough to go running about the backwoods with guns, plotting revolution and concocting napalm. Allegedly.

We do need to continue to work to break down the oligarchy that has control over the power structures of the world, and New Zealand is as good a place as any to do that. But a bunch of Maori spereratists aren't gonig to contribute to that.
 

Re: 17 activists arrested, denied bail. 300+ Police raid houses across the country

you need to understand that you can't fight these people, they have the laws, the jails and the force to back them - there has to be some other way now...they are the old way and the old ways of dealing with them have got us no where.

what happened here was a way for them to exercise their training in 'terrorist' whatever - you were simply the victims of it - it happens all the time in the US - the NZ police are becoming clones of the US and instead of training exercises where people know they are part of an exercise - you were not told - but you were nothing more than part of an exercise in terrorism control or whatever word goes there

you can't fight them....there has to be another way
 

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So why are all the protests and meetings held during working hours? Could it be your all unemployed layaouts living off the state (the same state you want to overthrow) dole
 

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oh yes lets all validate our ego's with a little generalisation and unfounded accusations. Very very mature.
 

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I've always been mystified when people make this assumption - have you never heard of the remarkable concept of part time jobs? That's what I've always had, since with high unemployment and so much voluntary work that needs doing, I've always thought that was the socially responsible option. You'll find a large amount of the people you're talking about have also chosen part-time work, for the same reasons.

(I also happen to think spending 5 days a week making money is boring, unhealthy, and greedy.)

Would you make the same assumption about ALL the millions of volunteers that contribute so massively to society in so many ways? Or are the ones that volunteer with children and old people ok, but the ones that volunteer working for peace, human rights or the environment not? Doesn't that just sound like prejudice?

If you try questioning your assumptions occasionally, you won't end up sounding so foolish.

As for what's happened in NZ, modern history is full of documented police stitch ups, and also of despairing people who end up feeling violent tactics are all they've got left to protect the things that matter to them.

I'm not gonna speculate which this til more facts are available, but knowing activitist communities I sure lean more towards the first. Solidarity to the NZ activist community in a scary time.
 

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I participate in protests and meetings after work and during my lunch break, and that's not unusual.
 

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I don't think a bunch of Tuhoe activists playing Che Guevara in the backwoods count as 'despairing people.' They aren't in the same situation as the Palestinians in the occupied territories.
 

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Thats a generalisation actually and really quite uncalled for. I am a writer, yeah Im on the dole, I find it hard to get work because snobs say 'You'll have to take that ring out of your nose and look at the tattoo on my wrist' and give me that 'What are you look'. There is still ALOT of this happening. Please dont put people down on benefits. Alot of us are trying to do our best. But alot of us also dont want to be machines and that is what the world has become, one big machine and now big corrupt comapnies are talking about commodifying water!
 

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For a writer your spelling and grammar is atrocious. Don’t give up your day job… oh wait… nevermind.
 

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Honey i am a qualified nurse that takes pride in caring for my patients. We aint all on the dole love. Maybe one day I'll take care of you.
 

Re: 17 activists arrested, denied bail. 300+ Police raid houses across the country

To liken the NZ Government to Hitler/s, and the NZ Police to the Gestapo, cheapens what happened in Europe under the Nazi regime, and thereby cheapens what is happening right now.

What should be of more concern is:

-not talking to the media, for example, a member of the Save The Happy Valley Coalition was interviewed on Close Up tonight, needless to say, it seemed fairly counterproductive.

-ask yourself why neo-nazi organisations in the south island have been involved in paramilitary training in the past few years, yet haven't been raided/arrested/denied bail/been plastered all over the main stream media over the past few days.

-this is pretty serious shit, using this complete abuse of civil liberties as some kind of call to arms (like advocating violence as a legitimate reaction) is going to do a lot more harm than good. Better a unified, well thought out reaction, controlled contact with the mainstream media, and protests focused on an issues based agenda.

May be even think a little bit about what is at stake right now. Because this really doesn't feel like a game.

Kia Kaha
 

Re: 17 activists arrested, denied bail. 300+ Police raid houses across the country

**WE MUST FIGHT**

I support the complete destruction of the Government and to those other countries ruled by tyrants. I am an anarchist lefty feminist good witch. I FULLY SUPPORT military training for Tino Rangatira, anarchist, animal rights, feminist, enviromental activists. Id the police have them THEN WHY THE **** cant WE?
Our rights are being taken from us everyday and I think these ARRESTS will only make us STRONGER. We know who we are, we are the future. Everyone has a place. Everyone deserves equality. RISE UP and band together.
 

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Police = euphemism for military
It's okay nobody panic, peak oil's coming and that will leave the world in a state of anarchy whether it likes it or not. Hopefully. The police will have alienated supporters over this issue because of their use of force, let's not make the same mistake. Hate to be pessimistic, but can anyone name a peacefull and succesfull revolution? This is not going to be pretty, but violence is not the best course just yet. I'm all for blowing up trains lines and coal power stations, but violence against humans is a last resort. For all those too holy to up arms and fight, it's your choice, but someone has too.
 

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Well spoken!
 

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I completely agree! No arms against people but make chaos and make a statement! Better watch it they will be coming for me next for expressing myself. Its good to be free in Aoteamyanmar
 

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PROTEST - ANIMAL RIGHTS

Hundred of animals are subjected to extreme cruelty every year at the hands of mainly BIG FAT GREEDY WHITE MEN For those who wish to protest against animal cruelty (namely HLS of whose clients are in Aotearoa) on Nov please email me sashimukti (at) gmail.com. The police wont stop us!
 

Re: 17 activists arrested, denied bail. 300+ Police raid houses across the country

But I like meat.

Is there anything wrong with living a traditional Maori lifestyle?
 

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Can you justify the murder of animals unneccesarily? One of the wonders of modern living is that we now have a choice whether we kill to survive. It's up to each person to make that moral choice for themselves. answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Av6Pj.d5jCrAP.k.narOpVUjzKIX if you want to read about some reasons for vegetarianism then read this.
 

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Why does every debate on Indy media get side-tracked by some nutter vegetarian? We evolved as omnivores. Carnivores slaughter herbivores by the tens of thousands every day in Africa alone. Vegetarians don't have a problem with that. Vegetarians' problem is that they are bonkers with misplaced feelings on empathy towards live stock. Besides, who can resist that porterhouse, medium rare, chips, salad and a big glass of black beer. Aaaah. Don't you all feel better now?
 

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Um excuse me. Are you calling me a nutter because Im a vegetarian? I think you find there are lots of them on here. And dont assume from one announcement of an impending protest that that person is a nutter. So me, Kriptolyte, my name on a few other sites is not pleased you should call people who care about others, namely vegies, nutters.
 

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I wouldn't be surprised that some animal rights activists are involved in this. There are some that are involved with the animal rights movement that believe the best way to save the animals is to wipe out the human race. However, there are others that are less extreme and only want to bomb the labs that experiment on animals, burn down freezing works and farmers' houses and shoot up shops that sell fur clothing.
 

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Hello, its very plain that you are quite uneducated, or rather, uninformed from your comment. Dont make such assumptions. People may take this to heart.
 

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Your comments are very uneducated. Heard of non-violence? Heard of karma? Reincarnation? Yes some of us vege/vegans are perhaps bonkers but it better than having morals like a used toilet roll, now, isnt it? I suggest you read a bit more, get a bit more educated alright? Good. Plenty of humans and animals have good friendships. Its really possible to speak to them too, so much better then speaking to something dead, now, isnt it. Good. Have I made you WILD yet? Theres lots of good sites to help you become a vegetarian. Check out the NZ Vegetarian site.
 

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This is based on my and many other's personal experience from within the animal rights movement that left because of the unelightened, misguided, uneducated, easily lead, non-freethinking and browbeating nature of some. Plus comments posted on this internet site over the pass three to four years.

And no I'm not wild. I feel pity because I know that some can be brainwashed by the animal rights propaganda machine so much that they believe that the end justifies any means.
 

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There are also some who are opposed to abortion who bomb clinics and kill doctors. There are some who support property rights who shoot anyone coming on to their property. There are some who oppose US hegemony who drive aeroplanes through buildings. There are some who oppose communism who murder and torture innocent people. There are some who support communism who do the same. TNeed I go on. Why do you equate those with a philosophical position maintaining that animals should have moral consideration with violence, when in fact pretty much any viewpoint could be associated with violence by the same logic.

Phil
 

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If you take a look at what the person has said on the protest it says cruelty to animals okay, and well, to be honest and others will agree that that means the eating of meat. When we eat meat we eat the violence that animal has endured during its execution. I am all for traditional Maori values,except for the meat thing. But then I was bought up a different way perhaps. Look up Karma if that helps.
 

Who are the real terrorists?

The Police have been calling Peace and Environmental Protestors and Maori activists terrorista but have another look at the police operation up in Tuhoi country, squads of heavily armed & armoured balaclava clad men in black aiming guns at children, raiding homes and taking property and arresting people for very little, plain and simple they are using terror tactics themselves, there is an election next year, this government has to go!
 

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Yeah, with any more powers the cops will only start raping more people with milk bottles like those criminals Louise Nichols took on.
 

THE REAL TERRORISTS

The Police have been calling Peace and Environmental Protestors and Maori activists terrorista but have another look at the police operation up in Tuhoi country, squads of heavily armed & armoured balaclava clad men in black aiming guns at children, raiding homes and taking property and arresting people for very little, plain and simple they are using terror tactics themselves, there is an election next year, this government has to go!
 

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Yeah, replace this govt with the National money grabbing twits and things will be worst.
 

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then vote green or maori
 

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Funnily enough, Act aren't even as bad as National these days. Reading this speech (www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA0710/S00186.htm), they have the same position as the Greens on Civil Liberties and they support the Maori Party on Foreshore and Seabed.

Politics is weird!
 

Re: 17 activists arrested, denied bail. 300+ Police raid houses across the country

A rally is being held at Marion Hobb's Willis Street electorate office Wednesday morning just before 8am.

The theme of the rally is 'Free the Maoris', and 'Free the Greenies'.

The rally will start a day of actions, including rallies at the Wellington Court later in the day.

There is also a rally in Sydney to support Maorri and Enviornmentalist supporters who have been arrested and interrogated in the last 2 days.


There's a Sydney solidarity demo tomorrow (Wednesday 17)
8.45am
New Zealand Consulate-General, level 10, 55 hunter
street. Nearest train station is Martin Place.
--
 

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> at the Wellington Court later in the day.

Specifically, at 2pm, outside the District Court on Ballance St (off the Parliament end of Lambton Quay)
 

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Perspective from the other side of the world...

These ATTACKS were racially and politically motivated:

1. "middle" NZ will now fear Maori
2. certain legislation will be pushed through
3. selected sites were removed from the internet temporarily or permanently

Anonymous, as NZ is clearly not a place where free speech, expression or protest can flourish.
 

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Seriously there are many in New zealand , that will not know what process to take in regards to the actions taken by the NZ POLICE ( the wrongful entries , the children and kaumatua having to be treated like criminals , the damages of raids etc), in the recent days or in shock to what has happened , rally to support them , as now Parliament has said , that they will have to lay complaints with the Police complaints , WELL THE ENERGY AND CONFIDENCE WITH POLICE INVESTIGATING THEM SELVES < so if you know anyone or what ever , support whanau , inform the communities of their rights and legal processes.
 

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PLease it didnt take this for them to fear , they have for along time..... ,this just fuels it,.... they have their crap mediums of voice their simple brainless thoughts and uneducated comments ,the talk backs are safe places for colonised Maori and middle class whites

In History ,theres alot of Legislation ,we are known to create at a rapid speed

NZSIS are onto it!!!!!!! just keep creating site after site , create in advance and get it out....youtube , bebo .....everywhere swamp the sites
 

Info in Russian

On the St. Petersburg Indymedia website.
piter.indymedia.ru/ru/node/3419
Solidarity, comrades!
 

Re: 17 activists arrested, denied bail. 300+ Police raid houses across the country

"These ATTACKS were racially and politically motivated:"

They didn't actually get to attack anyone, fortunately the Police stopped them before they could.

But your right they definately would have been politically and racially orientated.
 

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Kia Ora,

sorry if you got this more than once!

Please feel warmly invited to a fundraiser screening of THE REVOLUTION WILL NOT BE TELEVISED
(a documentary film about the Coup in Venezuela 2002 against President Hugo Chavez)
proceeds toward Peace Action Legal Fund- many activists still have charges from the campaign against the Weapons Conference last year!

Friday 18th and Saturday 19th of October at 7.30pm
at the Wellington Film Archive
(crnr Taranaki and Ghuznee St)
$8 (concession $6)

It is no secret that acting in your freedom of speech in a way that counteracts the status quo can get you arrested.
If you're lucky you might get Legal Aid, but now you even have to pay that back!
Let's not let Freedom of Speech and the right to protest become a user-pays priveledge!

Please come and forward this through your networks to support activists who stand up for peace still fighting with legal cases
 

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KIA KAHA from the UK

Any thing we can do to help from here...

Ratboy
 

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Probably just stay out of New Zealand and remain in the UK would probably suit most of us.
 

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Who ever written this post,of tell the (person) to stay out of NZ (better watch their mouths)you don't have that right to say that. The person who offered his acknowledgement has every right to do so for what ever they so for desire and Kia Ora to that person & all in the UK.
 

Denver, CO, U$A: indigenous resistance world-wide!

Videos of Transform Columbus Day 2007
portland.indymedia.org/en/2007/10/366953.shtml
 

Re: Denver, CO, U$A: indigenous resistance world-wide!

Much Respect to the Warriors There in Great Turtle Island and their proud 515 years of Resistance to Genocide.
 

Re: 17 activists arrested, denied bail. 300+ Police raid houses across the country

i was wondering if anyone knew of any protests planned in auckland ? People in auckland have been targeted more than the mainstream media is letting on and many are oblivious to how suspect the police action has been to date. I just overheard a conversation between two politics students at auckland university, all they were concerned about was the idea of a moari terrorist uprising. People need to be made aware that grass-roots activism is under attack here.
Funny how the cops are avoiding the word "anarchist" like the plague, despite obviously targetting 128 and A Space Inside.
We are not blind or stupid.
 

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Could you tell me what 128 is?
 

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128 is a Wellington activist and community centre.
 

Re: 17 activists arrested, denied bail. 300+ Police raid houses across the country

Tame Iti was denied bail and remanded in custody until October 24.

A further four people were denied bail when they appeared in court in Wellington today.
 

Re: 17 activists arrested, denied bail. 300+ Police raid houses across the country

Good turnout at the Wellington District court this afternoon. Well done everyone.
 

Re: 17 activists arrested, denied bail. 300+ Police raid houses across the country

Welcome to the next wave of masonic/illuminati suppression of the native populations of the world. Unfortunately, as we (Tangata Tuturu o Aotearoa) were not conquered my military means, as our native brothers and sisters around the world were, we survived the attacks which as far as I can see, come as part of a three pronged strategy ; 1 - extermination - Just a bit too late for that, as I said we were not conquered by force, otherwise what's happening now wouldn't be. Extermination failed 200 years ago 2 - Assimilation - That one failed as well. Our elders were too strong and would not let the langauge and culture die quietly. 3 incarceration. Well would ya look at that. The final solution is happening. Stand up my brothers and sisters and re-embrace the ways of our tupuna. Strength of mind, body and spirit will see us through. Fighting with physical force will not work this time. We must use the mind to prevail over the darkness thrust upon us by the dogs of war. Kia tu, Kia kaha, Kia ora
 

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Masonic / Illuminati? The apprehension of some blokes playing soldiers in the backwoods the start of another wave of oppression of native popualtions? Get real.

This will all be resolved in due course. Some people will probably cop some jail time for possession of illegal fire arms, which is how it should be, because being aggreived doesn't give you the right to break the law.
 

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OK Lurgee. You don't read the history books do you? At least those which haven't been censored in favour of the conquerers. Nom you're right, being aggrieved doesm't giv people the right to break the law, so what's the excuse of the most "powerful" nation on the planet for invading countries like Afghanistan? Some guy in a cave in the mountains supposedly being able to coordinate the simultaneous flight of four airliners into strategic targets? Get your hand off it mate. Either you're one of them, which I highly doubt because you make G.W. Bush look like an absolute genius, or you are just one of the many millions of poor souls who have been blinded by all the lies and poison spread by the "elite" in our society. In case you had trouble reading some of the slightly bigger words in my comment, I will translate into dickhead speak for you. Fighting is not the answer. we must all unite, no matter what race, creed or colour because these bastards have done it to everyone, not just my beloved tangata iwi o Aotearoa. Oops. Sorry. that last bit had words that are harder to pronounce than wheelbarrow. sooooorrrrrryyyyy. Bugger off and read Daivid Icke's books when your single brain cell finally figures out the fine art of ozmosis. Hang on. that might make you schizophrenic. All these big words give you a headache yet ignorant one? better pop a titty bottle in your mouth and go back to sleep until you evolve into something slightly more intelligent.......like a cockroach.
 

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I know who David Icke is. He's the insane paranoic who prophesized on British TV that he was the Messiah, an Earthquake would sink the Isle on Man and that wearing turquoise was good. Since then, he's proclaimed that intergalactic space lizards that drink the blood of children rule the planet, masquerading as politicians.

So I'll pass on his version of history, and feel no need to pay any attention to your raving.

Don't belittle the mighty cockroach - they were here before us, and wil be here long after us.
 

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Above from lurgee.
 

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Here's the problem. It's not his version of history that I'm talking about. Look at Australia for instance. The koori people were herded like cattle and then slaughtered for no other reason than someone's sick theory that they were less human than the common dog. This was left out of the history books for what reason? And if you think I'm pulling this out of thin air, Visit the place and go to a town called Armidale. The evidence is there. Everyone knows it because their ancestors did it at the orders of their colonial superiors. Then look at the History of the Native American Nations. See how many were starved into submission because the pale face wanted their mineral rich lands. That is, of course, if you have the cojones to face true history and not the sanitised, lopsided " we did it because they needed to find GOD" version of history the "Imperial" Colonial invaders like to corrupt everyone with. And while you're at it, ask yourself this.... What would I do if people came from the other side of the world, availed themselves of my hospitality and then tried to kill me for my land? Would I lay down and die? Or would I stand amd fight for what I believe is rightfully mine? No one should have to stand and fight, especially now in these so-called modern, democratic times, but it still happens. Israel, for example. And no, I'm not anti-semitic. the Jews were sucked in too. For thousands of years, they lived peacefully with their Arabic neighbours and then in 1948, the powers that be, coerced and bribed the nations of the world into creating the state of Israel, creating a never ending cycle of violence in the name of control aver the middle east and its oil riches. Don't tell me this was done for the good of the people. The elite don't care for the people, only wht they can get from them. Your eyes will be opened soon. Hopefully before it's too late and a bullet is put between them by a greedy bastard after your land.
 

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Here's the problem. It's not his version of history that I'm talking about. Look at Australia for instance. The koori people were herded like cattle and then slaughtered for no other reason than someone's sick theory that they were less human than the common dog. This was left out of the history books for what reason? And if you think I'm pulling this out of thin air, Visit the place and go to a town called Armidale. The evidence is there. Everyone knows it because their ancestors did it at the orders of their colonial superiors. Then look at the History of the Native American Nations. See how many were starved into submission because the pale face wanted their mineral rich lands. That is, of course, if you have the cojones to face true history and not the sanitised, lopsided " we did it because they needed to find GOD" version of history the "Imperial" Colonial invaders like to corrupt everyone with. And while you're at it, ask yourself this.... What would I do if people came from the other side of the world, availed themselves of my hospitality and then tried to kill me for my land? Would I lay down and die? Or would I stand amd fight for what I believe is rightfully mine? No one should have to stand and fight, especially now in these so-called modern, democratic times, but it still happens. Israel, for example. And no, I'm not anti-semitic. the Jews were sucked in too. For thousands of years, they lived peacefully with their Arabic neighbours and then in 1948, the powers that be, coerced and bribed the nations of the world into creating the state of Israel, creating a never ending cycle of violence in the name of control aver the middle east and its oil riches. Don't tell me this was done for the good of the people. The elite don't care for the people, only wht they can get from them. Your eyes will be opened soon. Hopefully before it's too late and a bullet is put between them by a greedy bastard after your land.
 

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Now I'm totally confused. No-one should need an ex soccer goal keeper turned failed millenial doom-monger turned intergalactic Lizard exposer to tell them that the world is a nasty,screwed up place, and it those with power and money have used it to exploit, rob or kill those without.

The Jews didn't live peacefully with their neighbours in pre-1948 Palestine for thousands of years. There were comparatively few there, and those few were dominated by various Muslim overlords until the Ottoman empire was dismembered after World War one. That is only "peace" in the sense of being too weak to speak up is peace.

I'm not going to carry on arguing with anonymous posters. If you haven't the courtesy to supply a nic so I know if I'm arguing with one person or twenty, consider the matter closed and victory entirely mine.
 

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there you go, lurgee, now you know it's only one person. OK some of david icke's stuff can be hard to swallow, but that's not the point. There were more jews in the middle east than you think. They were slaughtered by Christians more than they were by Muslims because they were blamed for the crucifixion by those who actually did it in the firstplace. And no, victory doesn't come that easily. It's good to be able to have these debates. There can be no victory, only lessons learned and enlightenment gained.
 

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Note that I said "comparatiely few" Jews. ALso, while there were Christian led slaughters during the Crusades, unless you're going to start invoking the Templars, Opus Dei and Freemasons, that's ancient history and not very important. The dominant poiwers in the region for the last several hundred years have been Islamic. It was only after WW1 that Britain, France et al divvied up the Ottoman empire and indicated that a Jewish homeland would be established in Palestine.
 

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It's not the apprehension of people playing at soldiers that I was getting at. What I was alluding to was the fact that throughout the years, governments have tried to take away our freedoms bit by bit. All at the behest of hidden individuals who seek to destroy the individuality that makes us all who we are. If you choose to scoff at my comments, tha'ts your right. Just pray that someday soon, somebody doesn't hear you make an off-hand remark about something as trivial as fertiliser and petrol, decide that you're planning something bad and have you arrested. And I don't apologise for my previous comments either. I just thought you night want some clarification of my remarks.
 

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I'm not completely at odds with you on this one. Yes, governments have sometimes limited freedoms and taken away rights, but they have also granted rights to us. Women have the right to abortion because the government says so. The slave trade was abolished because the government says so. Four weeks annual leave because the government says so. And so on. Suggesting it is all one way is simplistic - it is like a tide, now flowing one way, and then the other. That is why we have to be concerned and informed citizens, to make sure the flow is more towards liberty than repression and to ensure we recover rights that we might surrender in due course.

That's why I admire the activist community - they are playing thei rpart, being concerned citizens. But I do get annoyed by the dogmatic attitude on display on this forum. The police, for example, are not simply some repressive tool of state repression waiting to smash the workers' faces into the mud onceagain. Theya re trying to enforce laws that are negotiated by a range of interests, ranging from the top to the bottom of society. Althusser was wrong, Gramsci was right.

As for the risk of wrongful arrest you mention, that is a real danger. But to suggest - as so many have done - that the policewere acting completely without warrant is ludicrous. It wasn't the case of Tame Iti making an off hand remark about fertilizer and petrol, it was an aggregation of several pieces of evidence that prompted police action. The police might be totally wrong, and they probably did over react, and they were almost certainly wrong to use the (deeply bad) anti-terror legislation, but they were responding to the perception of a real threat.
 

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LOL - masonic conspiracy - don't give the goat riders the credit.
Acquiescence is alway more credible than conspiracy.
The space lizards - do they do that tongue thing?
 

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Tena koe

It is a sad day for Police Commissioner and Helen Clark.
Maybe now is a good time to call for the feudal title as Maori are under attack from a terrorist group namely NSW settlers parliament.
Why in the world would somebody want to waste a bullet or threat on Helen Clark you could feed a family with that bullet utilising it for hunting.
Obviously the Settlers parliament are afraid of losing their right to govern.
They already have no constitution, which makes you wonder who really are the terrorists in New Zealand cause i am 100 percent positive that they are an illegal. I wonder what the Queen has to say about that.
 

Re: 17 activists arrested, denied bail. 300+ Police raid houses across the country

Please come and arrest me Police commissioner I'd love to challenge your jurisdiction in the courts.
my address is 8 Amokura street Taneatua. I'll be waiting
 

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You need to tell him why he should arrest you, first. Contrary to what you may believe, the police don't arrest people on a random basis, or on self-nomination.
 

Public Graffitti in Auckland!

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Free Tame Iti.jpg
Seen today on a monument situated at the intersection of Symonds and Wakefield streets, Central Auckland.
 

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AS a comic note - this is serious stuff, I back Tami Iti