How many were at the signing to tautoko, can the Kahukuraariki trust board give numbers of members attending there fine day

There were the six board members; three politians; Pita Pangari+mates (Shane Jones; son etc) and three police officers. Ella Henry wasn't there; to busy giving advice I guess; mind you that didn't stop her from commenting. Apparently the 200+ protestors were nothing more than disenfranchised youth. Perhaps Ella should open her eyes and ears and use them more than her mouth.

On the other side all you had was 200+ protestors. The government (OTS) is still up to it's old tricks of anyone can claim anything if it fits in with what the government wants. You can always find greedy people to sign.

We've been fighting this since before 1841 and I guess we'll be fighting it for another 160+ years.

Photos of Mr Cullen leaving

My Tupuna Hemi rua Paera will never let this agreement go thru Take note Peter Pangari and Shane Jones your days are numbered

Tena koutou

I take it that these are actions designed to provoke the Crown and or the trustboard and the rest of the iwi. However,when all parties are reconciled I take it the occupiers will simply leave the houses and return to their own whare!

Kia ora koutou
I take it this too is an action designed to provoke. By the way can anyone tell me how much money we all made from this little deal?Just so we can we can keep the books straight aye! When this raruraru is finally settled all the people will know the amount and we can then thank the individuals concerned for their creative enterpise.

Kia ora koutou

the signing of the Agreement in Principle on 22 December 2007 is the most significant action taken since our rangatira kaumatua kuia me nga tamariki hoki o era ra, first sent letters of protest to the Government beginning last century.

That we now have the extended Petersen whanau along with some other individuals, dissent from this view causes deep concern to most of us. We are whanaunga after all.However it must be made clear to everybody that though the Petersen whanau are significant in mana and number they do not make up the hapu of Ngati au Kiwi.Let it be clearly stated here the greater number of this hapu do not support the view held by the Petersen whanau.i.e that those iwi not connected to Waimahana and/or Taimaro via whakapapa have no entitlement to the land in question.This is at the core of all our raruraru.

And further lets take a closer look at what is being said by the Petersen whanau and their individual supporters.They call themselves the hapu of Ngati Aukiwa.They are simply one whanau who belong to this hapu albeit an extended one.But there are significant and larger whanau of this hapu that do not and will not support their views.These others make up the larger number who are Ngati Aukiwa and we stand firmly beside the iwi.To the younger ones of the Petersen whanau may I say it takes enormous courage to publicly oppose your kaumatua and kuia especially given the ill-health of your elders but do try to get them to think about the future of yourselves and their precious mokopuna. Be brave and remind them that this raruraru can only end in bitterness and heartbreak for those they have decreed must carry their burden into the future.
Let us leave the past behind us and move forward together now.

Ko te iwi kotahi tatou!

KO te iwi o Ngatikahu ki Whangaroa

Looking ahead

A marae is definitely is needed for Taemaro.What about all the hapu that make up our iwi help our whanau out who live there to build one. Where is the money going to come from?What about the Catholic Church being approached [for some funding]It seems they played no small part in moving the iwi to Waitaruke why not help us move back.

Me whakamaumahara koutou o whanaunga i runga o te Poari o Kahukuraariki a ratou mahi mo te iwi katoa.
Me mohio koutou o mahi i Taemaro o te 22nd December kei kino nui e ra mahi me nga korero ano. Ka nui te whakama o tenei kuia i o koutou mahi.
Kei te poouri tonu ahau.
Ae pea i kite mai a Paeara kia koutou ma i tera ra. Me mohio kei te pakaru koutou ma i tana ngakau.

Kia koutou te iwi o Ngatikahu ki Whangaroa!

E TU! E TU!E TU!

Te iwi o Ngatikahu ki Whangaroa!

Te mea nui
HE TANGATA! HE TANGATA! HE TANGATA!

Kahore ke
he whenua! he whenua! he whenu


kahore ke

he whenua he whenua he whenua

Your ancestral ownership korero is a load of rubbish! Read Michael Kings 'History of New Zealand'
One thing you are right about nobody speaks for your whanau and life goes on without you all.

Its a wonder Wilfred the people you work for [Telecom] dont comment on your outside activities!It certainly doesnt enhance them any.

Question: Elizabeth Petersen are you from Waimahana and or Taemaro and are you Ngati Aukiwa?
Answer:No on both counts.
You are from Taupo Bay therefore you are Ngati Rua.There is so much needed to be done at your marae why dont you go and sort it all out down your way.

Michael Petersen. Just because you rode horses on the station when you were a youngster does not give you ownership of it.Just because you live on it does not give you any greater rights than the rest of use either.

Wilfred Petersen Snr.[Bully]

To coin a phrase, have you or any of your whanau and supporters stopped to think:

What can I do for my iwi rather than, what can my iwi do for me?

Hillary Thomas.
You call yourself Tamati Roha. What a joke!Your grandfather would 'kick your arse'to hear you carrying his name around and dragging it through the mud like you do.Your father Te Wano would have made you stand in the corner all day looking at the wall!
Grow up you poser!

Missy Petersen.That trustee hung you out to dry at Waitaruke when she got up and challenged your bullshit and so did Davey Henare.Good on them I reckon.And like that other one said ...lets rattle your marbles...It made my day that hui did I laughed all the way home to Waimahana.

Lets get it right Celia Robinson got up and said one kaumatua asked her to be the 'eyes and ears' not 'the mouth' for Waimahana marae on the trust board, Thelma Day didnt say anything..(typical, probably have to consult with Ella) and David Henare said he didnt speak on behalf of Puhi O Te Waka Marae (Waimahana) and didint disbute the allegation made that the Waimahana Marae trustees to the Ngatikahu Ki Whangaroa Trust Board were elected at a private residence not at Waimahana Marae. R you a bit simple or were you at another meeting....

come on trust board and their supporters, give it up, aukiwa hapu arent gona let you rip them off.. the original claimants for claim Wai 116 Stony Creek Station was Taemaro/Waimahana kaumatua, all these other marae that have jumped on board did so because Doug Graham Minister of Treaty Negotiations at the time, said too much land to give back to one hapu Taemaro/Waimahana (Ngati Aukiwa Hapu) now the hapu that own the land are outnumbered by the neighbouring marae who all want a piece of the pie.. Trust board marae should be ashamed of themselves..

The lies are gradually being uncovered, these people who negotiated deals not authorised by the marae they proport to represent.. how much has the Ngatikahu Ki Whangaroa Trust Board received from government funding? $200,000 at least. It would be good to see the matter heard in court, I do know for certain that the Ngati Aukiwa Hapu (represented by persons elected at Waimahana Marae hui, yep petersons, but there are also rohas, smiths, larkins, tepanias, ruhi, mundays, daltons, and the list goes on) have not received any treaty funding. All these people go to the marae to make hapu decisions not private residences, so wake up trust board admit you stuffed up and step down and let aukiwa have its land and go research your own

i just wanted you all to know AUKIWA OCCUPY ALL THE STATION HOUSES to the Trust Board tough bikkies and yep it feels great..

in your attempt to disqualify Elizabeth Peterson, how then do you qualify the lawyer and his whanau voting at a mandate hui in Waitaruke, or are they descendants of aukiwa waimahana/taemaro. korero mai.This also raises the question of every other non descendant of aukiwa resolving issues on their behalf.

The Elizabeth Peterson comment that she is not Ngati Aukiwa is correct.Ask her.
The rest of your statement is lost in translation
Please clarify.

Kia ora Whare Jumpers!Dont forget to keep the houses tidy mow the lawns and keep the gardens weed-free.Remember to leave your footwear outside and wash your hands before meals.Try to smile as you go about your business. Be polite to all visitors. Thank you.
The Landlord.

The Wai 116 claim began with kaumatua Teddy Emery passing on his knowledge of 'the lost lands' to Pita Pangari. After much research Pita then took the claim forward to the Waitangi Tribunal with legal counsel Richard Hawk assisting.There, the claim was recognised as genuine and a number Wai 116 was allocated to it.On all legal documents since that numbeer is attached when speaking of 'the lost lands' Of note Bully Peterson and Percy Tatai did not enter those discussions until at least ten years after Teddy Emery first spoke to Pita Pangari about 'the lost lands'These are the lands now being returned to our iwi should we vote Yes for settlement.

The Wai 116 claim began with kaumatua Teddy Emery passing on his knowledge of 'the lost lands' to Pita Pangari. After much research Pita then took the claim forward to the Waitangi Tribunal with legal counsel Richard Hawk assisting.There, the claim was recognised as genuine and a number Wai 116 was allocated to it.On all legal documents since that numbeer is attached when speaking of 'the lost lands' Of note Bully Peterson and Percy Tatai did not enter those discussions until at least ten years after Teddy Emery first spoke to Pita Pangari about 'the lost lands'These are the lands now being returned to our iwi should we vote Yes for settlement.

Please contact the Office of Treaty Settlements in Wellington for the precise funding amount that has been given to the Board. All is accounted for and will stand any legal scrutiny.
Of course your whanau and supporters do not receive any treaty funding because you do not have a mandate from the Government to operate on behalf of all the iwi.You speak only for yourselves.But tell me how would you sort this out? Through respectful dialogue or simply yelling at others who dont hold your views.Korero mai.

Rider to previous comment.
Kia ora whanaunga
It is correct that you dont receive any treaty funding from the Trustboard nor does any other of our marae unless of course we use them for hui then we give a koha. Primarly the funding is for things like the running of the Mangonui Office, payment of staff who man it,electricity phone office product postage etc.
It is not cheap to run an office ask around.
You do not permit us to use the marae at Waimahana so we never go there even though you dont own it, we would rather not have an unseemly row about it.
So we hold hui at other places most often Waitaruke.

Also once a month trustees are paid petrol money to attend hui,the amounts vary it depends on where one lives and how far one needs to travel e.g Kawerau to Waitaruke.And it just covers the cost of running a car believe me.You know what petrol costs are like so, you wont get rich sitting on this board thats for sure.
If you would like to see a regular monthly financial spreadsheet of the board I m sure it can be arranged.
Have a great day whanaunga.

Trust board accountability what a joke... Taemaro trustees havent had a meeting with the Taemaro people for at least 3 years, so called Waimahana Marae trustees report to a private residence only and the lawyer for the trust board wants any dissenters (whanau that dont agree with Trust Board decisions) kept out altogether... read the minutes and reports

Kia ora whanaunga

Please direct me to where I can get the minutes and reports to which you refer.

I will of course pass on your comments to the Taemaro and Waimahana trustees Im sure they wont mind me mentioning their names.

Sandra HeiHei _ Taemaro
Alec Aperahama

Thelma Day - Waimahana
Celia Robinson

They are all lovely people,intelligent and very kind an absolute asset to their hapu and the iwi as a whole.

Mihi mai whanaunga.

Can you please send any financial spreadsheets, statements and minutes to paeara (at) ihug.co.nz?

Can anyone explain why the Taemaro (Sandra) and Waimahana (Thelma) trustees report to a private residence rather than their own marae?

The Wai 116 claim began with kaumatua Teddy Emery, true, but he did'nt pass on his knowledge of 'the lost lands' to Pita Pangari, Pita Pangari stole them. Teddy Emery would be ashamed of what Pita Pangari has negotiated for our hapu, and anyone that would vote yes to the governments offer needs their head examined. Call yourselves descendants of Kahukuraariki!

Can someone please send me the financial spreadsheets, statements, minutes etc to paeara (at) ihug.co.nz?

I've contacted the Office of Treaty Settlements in Wellington for the precise funding amount and details but they won't release any details to me. Can someone on the board request these details and send them to me?

Kia ora whanaunga,minutes of last TB hui February 16 will be sent asap as will financial report for dec/jan/ 07/08.
I am unsure why OTS have not been more forthcoming re your request. They are required
[in law]to help you. Be specific in your requirements.

Have you ever stopped to think why Teddy Emery didnt talk to Bully Peterson and Co about the history of our whenua?As we all know he chose instead to speak with Pita Pangari.Go figure.
What did Teddy know that we dont know of Bully Peterson,Michael Peterson and Co?Did he foresee their greed overrriding everything,that they would ruin the iwi if necessary to have their way.Just look around you today.
The iwi must stand up to this terrible behaviour of 'one of our own'and not permit it to go for much longer.

Who told you Teddy Emery chose to speak with Pita Pangari? Pita Pangari, go figure.

Roka did.[Teddys sister to you} Go figure.

to paeara (at) ihug.co.nz

We know who you are!

There is so much needed to be done at your marae why dont you go and sort it all out down your way.

Who is paeara (at) ihug.co.nz?

Hi; paeara (at) ihug.co.nz here! I never got those financial reports for dec/jan/ 07/08. Can someone please send them to me?

So if you know who I am then that's good!

yeah you guys posted the AIP photos on this website.And how close is your whanau to Paeara anyway? If I were you I wouldnt be demanding anything of Ngatikahu ki Whangaroa I would instead live out my days quietly in Taemaro and enjoy the company of others who are better informed.
Noho ora mai tauiwi!

Hi it's paeara (at) ihug.co.nz here!

Firstly; so what if someone posted the AIP photos on this website? Are you ashamed of your iwi fighting for what has been stolen from them?

Secondly, my whanau are direct descendants of Paeara. What about yours?

Thirdly, am I wrong to think that the Ngatikahu ki Whangaroa Trust Board represents the entire iwi including Taemaro? If so; why shouldn't I demand things from them? Aren't they a Trust Board? Don't they have a legal responsibility to keep their members informed? I've been asking the Trust Board simple questions since January 2008; but they refuse to response in a civil manner. I don't know why; but it doesn't look good.

Me mohio koe a 'Paeara (at) ihug.co.nz' kei te titiro tonu te iwi kia koe me o tuhituhi hoki.
Ano to ahua hoki kia matou nei kei te ahuaatua ke. Mo te aha?
Ano mehemea e pa ana to whanau kia Paeara ae marika anaianei me tika hoki o tuhituhi me to ahua hoki
Nga mahi o Te Poari o Kahukuraariki kei te pakeke tonu.Me haere mai koe ki nga hui o te Poari i reira me tu koe, ka kite te katoa ia koe, korero mai kia matou aha ke o hiahia, kaua e tu mai i muri o te kuaha e korero ana koe kia koe ano!

Unfortunitely my Maori is not good enough to fully appreciate what you are saying. Could you please help me by repeating what you are saying in English?

Ae pea ko tae mai te ra me ako koe i te reo.
[Perhaps the day has arrived for you to begin to learn the language]

Perhaps you could help me learn by repeating what you said in English?

Kahore.

It's a shame you're not willing to converse in English. I guess as long as we fight amongst ourselves OTS and the government will continue to take our land and people.

Can someone please send me any financial spreadsheets, statements, minutes etc to paeara (at) ihug.co.nz?

You are the Kelly family[Hazel Williams crew] of Taemaro.
You dont have the guts to stand up and publicly affirm who you are so I will do it for you.
You say you are uri of Paeara what a joke you're distant on a good day.[Your grandfather Teddys dad was from the Waikato] Genuine uri o Paeara would never do what your'e doing right now which is playing pathetic games with the iwi.
We know your game its dumb so go away tauiwi.

They might shut up now. I dont want anything to do with pie in the sky whanaunga that behave the way they do.Shame on you the Kelly family[Hazel Williams] of Taemaro.

You must be worried if you have to attack true maori like this? What are you scared of? That all of our efforts will finally expose you for what you are? I haven't even started; so enjoy your 5 minutes in the sun.

Hi it's paeara (at) ihug.co.nz here!

Wow! So much love going on here. Isn't it great being a maori Ella?

So; are you ashamed of your iwi fighting for what has been stolen from them? We should be fighting the theiving government not each other.

I am a direct descendant of Paeara; I suggest you stop reading Pita's story book. My uncle Teddy would be ashamed of you questioning his kaumatua status.

Am I wrong to think that the Ngatikahu ki Whangaroa Trust Board represents the entire iwi including Taemaro? If so; why shouldn't I demand things from them? Aren't they a Trust Board? Don't they have a legal responsibility to keep their members informed? I've been asking the Trust Board simple questions since January 2008; but they refuse to response in a civil manner. I don't know why; but it doesn't look good.

All my love, Paeara Family

Its a wonder Manaaki the people you work for [CMDHB] dont comment on your outside activities!It certainly doesnt enhance them any.

True Maori?You Kellys believe your own bullshit.
happy days tauiwi.

Enjoy your 5 minutes!

youve had yours cant u hear the boos that means get off the stage tauiwi

Haven't even started kupapa!

you need to draw a long bow for the Kelly whanau to be direct descendants of Paeara but sweet as tauiwi.Now that we all know who paeara@ihug is the iwi can all rest easy cos we gonna nominate you all for our first line of defence against the pakeha government when they come -a-hunting for true Maori to patu!

So you think you know who I am? What a load of rubbish; you don't even know your own whakapapa. When the pakeha government does come hunting for true Maori to patu; I know where you'll be; hiding behind them kupapa!

I realise Pita has been writing the history books but did he really tell you that Teddy Emery wasn't a direct descendant of Paeara?

I realise Pita has been writing the history books but did he really tell you that Teddy Emery wasn't a direct descendant of Paeara?

are you fullas related to that Ned Kelly bloke across the ditch? if you are Aroha tauiwi aroha.[he got strung up you know]Anyway ring your bell when us Paeara descendants are close by you so we can get outta your way we gotta try and save ourselves so we can be the iwi for you fullas
Happy days behind the kuaha tauiwi.

So what exactly are you smoking? It must be good shit for you to be so deluded kupapa!

Hi paeara (at) ihug.co.nz here!

So let's move on from this little game of blame and defame kupapa. I've answered your Kelly question by telling you that you still don't know who I am; so take another guess. So since I answered your question why don't you answer a few of my simple questions:

1) Are you ashamed of your iwi fighting for what has been stolen from them?

2) Did Pita really tell you that Teddy Emery wasn't a direct descendant of Paeara?

3) Am I wrong to think that the Ngatikahu ki Whangaroa Trust Board represents the entire iwi including Taemaro? If so; why shouldn't I demand things from them? Aren't they a Trust Board? Don't they have a legal responsibility to keep their members informed? I've been asking the Trust Board simple questions since January 2008; but they refuse to response in a civil manner. I don't know why; but it doesn't look very good.

Paeara Family

sorry for the delay tauiwi I was over at Facebook reading and looking at some interesting shit real interesting...

Did someone finally post the videos of you hiding behind the pakeha government kupapa?

you really ought to get te reo sorted out tauiwi
do you really know what kupapa means its...
if your'e going to use Maori terms do try to use them in the correct context...and yeah Facebook was mmm...taken on AIP signing day in Taemaro from not sure where...pretty good shots though...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kupapa

Kupapa is a Māori-language term used to describe Māori fighting for the Government in the New Zealand Land Wars of the nineteenth century . Also described as Queenites (from Queen Victoria) or Loyal Māori, their motives for fighting against other Māori were often based on traditional tribal rivalry, old scores or a pragmatic decision to benefit from the trade provided by settlers.

The term has also a modern usage in a derogatory sense to describe a Māori who is seen as being on the Pākehā side and acting against the interests of the Māori community.

Thanks for the explaination above; I thought I used it correctly; perhaps your short course in Maori was a bit to short Kupapa?

"A Māori who is seen as being on the Pākehā side and acting against the interests of the Māori community."

Hi paeara (at) ihug.co.nz here!

So let's finally move on from this game of yours Kupapa. Why don't you answer a few of my simple questions:

1) Are you ashamed of your iwi fighting for what has been stolen from them?

2) Did Pita really tell you that Teddy Emery wasn't a direct descendant of Paeara?

3) Am I wrong to think that the Ngatikahu ki Whangaroa Trust Board represents the entire iwi including Taemaro? If so; why shouldn't I demand things from them? Aren't they a Trust Board? Don't they have a legal responsibility to keep their members informed? I've been asking the Trust Board simple questions since January 2008; but they refuse to response in a civil manner. I don't know why; but it doesn't look very good.

Paeara Family

kupapa= v.i lie flat,remain quiet, become passive, be neutral in a quarrel,a term applied to the friendly Maoris during the wars of the sixties which is what Paeara was!
kupapa=adj. at a low level
kupapa= n.tetrapathaea tetandra a climbing plant,
a pattern of ornamental lattice-work for interior of a house.

again happy days tauiwi

Tauiwi you dont represent all the people of Taemaro moreover most dont support you in the bay anyway.

Tauiwi u korero crap and u are slo-mo!

A DICTIONARY OF THE MAORI LANGUAGE
H W WILLIAMS M.A

should you wish to check out te reo Maori.

Best there is tauiwi.

You missed the other meaning Kupapa! Traitor! I prefer this definition it suits you better.

"A Māori who is seen as being on the Pākehā side and acting against the interests of the Māori community."

Kupapa you dont represent anyone except yourself and once the wider iwi know all the facts you will be quickly forgotten and discarded.

By the way Paeara acted for the interests of the Maori community; he wasn't a sell out like you.

Hi paeara (at) ihug.co.nz here!

Let's move on from this game of yours Kupapa. Why don't you answer a few of my simple questions:

1) Are you ashamed of your iwi fighting for what has been stolen from them?

2) Did Pita really tell you that Teddy Emery wasn't a direct descendant of Paeara?

3) Am I wrong to think that the Ngatikahu ki Whangaroa Trust Board represents the entire iwi including Taemaro? If so; why shouldn't I demand things from them? Aren't they a Trust Board? Don't they have a legal responsibility to keep their members informed? I've been asking the Trust Board simple questions since January 2008; but they refuse to response in a civil manner. I don't know why; but it doesn't look very good.

Paeara Family

thats it Tauiwi no more to say to you for I must get on with my studies.
When all the votes are counted it will define the future for the iwi and that is how it should be.
Those who have remained static in their thinking with little vision will surely be overcome by the tide of history that is surging in.
The time of hope expectation and a bright future for the mokopuna is almost upon us.
The past has already been lived the future awaits.
Noho ora mai tauiwi.

noho ora mai tauiwi.

All the best with your studies Kupapa; I would call you by your real name but I don't know it. In getting an education try coming out from behind Pita's story book; travel the world; think for yourself; be free and become a true maori!

Although we disagree, we are whanau, all the best, arohanui, Paeara Family

Kia Ora,

I've been asking the Kahukuraariki Trust Board the following questions since January 2008; but unfortunitely I haven't received a straight answer from any of them to date.

1) Pita Pangari (Peter Pangari) is not toto; he was adopted into our hapu and believes he had a vision/calling to continue leading our people in this claim. Additionally, Pita continues to claim both his natural and adopted hapu. Yes or No?

2) The Ngati Kahu ki Whangaroa Trust Broad is not a legal entity it is represented legally as the "Kahukuraariki Trust Board". How is it audited
and held accountable to the trust members?

3) How are the trust members vetted?

4) How often are trust board member elections held?

5) Can you please tell me when we will be voting on the government's offer? Also; when we do vote on their offer do the trust board plan to have the
voting register and the vote itself independently audited; by say E&Y? This will hopefully ensure that the result won't be contested; perhaps the
government might fund this?

Paeara Family

Can someone please send me any financial spreadsheets, statements, minutes etc to paeara (at) ihug.co.nz?

Re: "We know your game its dumb so go away tauiwi."

Why is asking a trust board to be accountable dumb?

When all the audited votes are counted it will define the future for us.

Those who have remained selfish in their thinking with no vision will be overcome.

Hope, expectation and a bright future for the mokopuna has always been there.

The past has already been lived and should be respected not discarded; our future is out there so let's take it.

I live in Kaikohe my mums whakapapa links me to both trust boards, infact all members of both trusts carry the same whakapapa I have tride many times prior to this to make contact with the mandated negotiators, by going up for meetings (that don't happen) by trying to contact via phone, email even to Office of Treaty Setlements 'no-'JOY' I wanted to see and consider the settlement for myself and my whanau
After the signing in princple I was finally able to have a look, it is very scarey, what is being given back? and to whom? Kahukuraariki have full right to lease knowing that Crown have a 50% right of money, the land wasn't settled it was gifted and finally, (some)land title has already been determined fee simple, and what whanau, organisations anywhere in NZ have government departments involved with their interests. My final coment, why have Ngati Aukiwa whanau been termed protestors, angry mob instead of seeing us as concerned benificiares to the signing and how many were there to tautoko I ask

Ownership of Stoney Creek is now in question pple Hemi Rua Paeara is the name on the Land Deed when it was taken by the pakeha government,It is also the name that Pita Pangari has used on the 116 claim, But Pita has lied about his whakapapa,to elevate himself as a claimant,

Now for the Trust Board setup by Pita under a mandate he receieved from the pple of Taemaro and other Marae including Waimahana ,First and foremost Pita never once told any land owners of Taemaro that the Trust Board he plan to setup with others would strip the owners of their rights as owners,never once did Pita or his legal Advisors say,that owners could not have a say to how their land was used, how do I know because I was the SEC for the team that took the kaupapa and mandate to our whanau at the Hui at Waitaruki,in 1997
and I still have the minutes and notes to all the meeting of that interim Team held

But first and foremost let me acknowledge Uncle Bully for his stubboness to not let go of his insight to maintain at all times the mana of his tupuna let me tell you all, thank God Uncle Bullys refusal to give his blessing too, that Hui for that I am extremely grateful for,because now the rightful owners will claim what my Tupuna Hemi Rua and all the other whanau mentioned in Hemi Rua.s claim all those many years ago and what they all died for.

The rightful owners will seek ownership as the mokopuna to all those Tupuna for Stoney Creek.And one of those mokopuna is Wilford Petersen and his whanau who have every right to be on that land at Stoney Creek because he and his siblings are owners of Stoney Creek, not the NgatiKakhu Ki Whangaroa Trust Board.

As for Pita my reason for leaving the proposed Trust Board Of Ngatikahu Ki Whangaroa Trust back in the late 1990s were that I asked your legal advisor Richard Hawke a question about the landowners rights (which included me)and his reply was he represents only Pita and from that moment I recognised that you Pita had duped all thoses pple and from there on I refuse to recognise your Trust Board in any concept,on the grounds that,

Pita you lied about my Tupuna HEMI RUA PAEARA and all the old pple no longer with us, in the whakapapa you yourself Pita made up and presented in your wai 116 claim

But little did you realise Pita that the old pple had passed the whakapapa down and now you are being challenged by Hemi Rua,s mokopuna,s and that in its self will now reflect on where you go too with the Trust Board

Futhermore I have seen comments on this site about Teddy Emery and others who have since passed on ,for what ever reasons you all want to speak about our Tupuna, BE AWARE it has its costs as well.

Another corection also Richard Hawke and his Whanau did not vote for the mandate at Waitaruki in fact he withdrew from the meeting,And the endorsement came from the Kuia and kuamatua who were there on the day

On knowledge passed on by Ted Emery yes there are allegations that Pita stole the information that was written down in a book, that book has never been returned by Pita even though he was seen with the book by one of Pita,s own whanau,when the book disappeared Pita denies taking the Book but the person (a young man at the time,Pita knows who he is ) whose saw Pita with the book has step up to the mark and challenged Pita.Funny thing though the book went missing when Pita left and has not been seen since,Tell me why would a young man want such a book that was of no use to him.The young man only found out the important of that book after it went missing and he got the blame for the book been lost,And this young man has suffered since, pple can come to their own conclusion

And another thing Uncle Bully had been talking with Peter about TAEMARO and Stoney Creek long before Peter started the research for wai 116 claim application, you pple need to get you facts right,for alot of the pple who were there at the very beginning excluding Uncle Bully from the very onset of Pita,s claim is rubbish

Well thats it from me and Pita you have alot of explaining to do to me

Marie Paul

Hi paeara (at) ihug.co.nz here!!!

I've created a web site which has all of the funding payments made by OTS to NKKWTB; it also details NKKWTB's creative expense claims. Interestingly, of the $253,000 paid to date to the NKKWTB; there seems to be about $43,000 unaccounted for.

www.ngatikahukiwhangaroa.com

Regards, Paeara Family

kiora whanau. Maybe this place is not the place to talk about our troubles. Maybe we should come away from this site and meet with each other at a hui and talk these things through face to face. I don't see how this site helps the situation. this website is purely for the benefit of others not ourselves. The makers of this site get a lot of information for free and you don't even know who they are or their interest in your particular problem. Be careful what you say in here because some of the worst types come in here posing as whanau and they comment about things that they don't know anything about. Let us all leave these kind of sites and talk to each other face to face.

The reason this site exists is because the NKKWTB refused to talk openly; have held hui in private and have had private discussions with the Government (OTS). The have also claimed expenses that aren't just and produce minutes from huis months after the event which don't reflect the iwi view.

As well as being lead by dictorial/overbearing chairpersons who force their agendas and beliefs on our iwi.

I am aware of what you are saying and agree that the NKKWT Board should have been upfront and honest with the whanau. What I meant about coming to these sites is that they only serve to bolster the credibility of this site and give the impression that this site has something worthwhile to offer the people of our rohe. It serves to make money from this site and our problems, nothing more. I am not from NKKW nor do I support it. I just thought that the rest of us can meet somewhere else to talk these things through instead of here. I agree the Trust board and its supporters have done things in secret for far too long and they are reaping the results of their lack of consultation and integrity. Kia ora for now

Point taken; perhaps we could setup a registered iwi members only website; which would have closed iwi only discussion groups and voting on iwi issues? We could get paeara (at) ihug.co.nz to set it up on www.ngatikahukiwhangaroa.com? What do you think?

Hi paeara (at) ihug.co.nz here!!!

I'm more than happy to do this on our website (www.ngatikahukiwhangaroa.com); anything that promotes open and frank discussion between our entire iwi is good; wherever they are in the world.

It should only take a few weeks to get this up and running if the iwi wants it.

Regards, Paeara Family

i think you have made a great suggestion Paeara.ihug. You set it up and then let us know on your website, and you will find a lot of the whanau will come to it. Till then, kia ora.

I think it is worthwhile noting that the growing concern among grassroots whanau of Taemaro and Waimahana should be enough to indicate to the NKKW Trust board, and its supporters that dissension is rife among the whanau and they can no longer continue taking care of business as they please. It is time to front up to the whanau and accept that there is a strong push for change as far the NKKW Trust board and its objectives are concerned. They can gracefully listen to the people and move on, or continue to be the object of scorn and opposition which will ultimately lead in their ejection from the whole process. Let's hope we can do this with dignity.

Hi paeara (at) ihug.co.nz here!!!

I'll start working on it as soon as I can; if anyone has any suggestions on what it should look like or how it should work then please feel free to send me an email at paeara (at) ihug.co.nz; or just visit www.ngatikahukiwhangaparoa.com to see how I've progressed.

Regards, Paeara Family

The NKKW trust board will have to fight for every little inch of whenua of our people and our marae. You had many years to do right by the people of our marae (Taemaro and Waimahana) but you were a false friend. Not only had you already begun plans to remove the control of our whenua from us as far back as the early 90s but you did it without conscience. For that, you are paying the price. Your days are numbered. Get out while you still have a shred of dingity left and leave our whenua alone. Nobody wants you in our affairs anymore. Go and latch onto some other marae who you will lead like lambs to the slaughter, like you did us. Leave by the way you came and close this door of misadventure and treachery behind you.