Jared, I think you misunderstand me. I don't really care about whether you call yourself an anarchist or a Leninist or a whateveritist. I'm just against people who say thou must organise in X or manner, or be excommunicated from the One True Church. Lots of us do all the things you advocate - go on protests, belong to community groups or unions or whatnot - and also participate in political parties and electoral politics. It's not an either/or choice, you know. Who are you to tell us that we're on the wrong track because we don't follow you party line of not voting? I think people are sick of being lectured to by peope who subscribe to -isms they have gotten out of books. Maybe my attitude will chnage if you create a big anarchist movement in NZ. But all I've seen over three decades on the left in NZ is handfuls of people in funny clothes giving out leaflets which go straight in the bin. Has there ever been an anarchist (or for that matter Leninist) group with more than 50 members in this country? Maybe you should get your own house in order before you lecture the rest of us on the true path to heaven.