..'we ran into a brick wall with the leadership in GPJA '
When exactly was that?
Ummm - must have missed that meeting(s)?
Having been fairly active in GPJA, on the organising cttee( which is open to anyone who wants to come along)
I don't remember any debates on this issue?
(I was away in Kyoto during March - maybe I missed something then?)
Who from DAWA was supposed to have brought this up?
Who from DAWA regularly attends GPJA meetings? (Organising meetings or GPJA Forums?)
Where's the debate and discussion been on this issue?
"But I never saw any sign of the Alliance calling for or promoting strike action and occupations of military facilities to help stop the war"
I don't recall where DAWA called for such action at any GPJA meeting where it hit any 'brick wall'.
Be fair folks!
GPJA has a lot of activists who have had quite a track record in taking action over the years on various issues.
Let's be balanced and reasoned in our criticisms, and keep it based on the facts.
Very keen to know the facts.
WHERE WAS THE 'BRICK WALL'?
(Incidently - just a small reality check for those who want to call for a 'General Strike' - it is useful to remember that only 17% of workers are currently members of ANY union.
Having had a bit of background in the union movement myself, I know that to organise general stoppages of any type involves stop work meetings, discussions on the job, votes over taking action - on the job.
When workplaces don't have union members, let alone job delegates - how are meetings going to be organised?
Who is going to call the meeting?
It's not like flicking on a light switch! (bugger)
In my experience, it takes a lot more work than calling for a 'General Strike' for it to actually to happen - and while
only 17% of workers are even members of unions in NZ - such a call is just plain silly - with all due respect.
Call for specific strikes maybe, but general strikes - with the current level of union organisation - no.
(In my considered opinion)
To make working class, work place-based action happen - it has to be organised.
At the workplace.
..'we ran into a brick wall with the leadership in GPJA '
Date Edited: 14 Dec 2003 02:30:17 PM
When exactly was that?
Ummm - must have missed that meeting(s)?
Having been fairly active in GPJA, on the organising cttee( which is open to anyone who wants to come along)
I don't remember any debates on this issue?
(I was away in Kyoto during March - maybe I missed something then?)
Who from DAWA was supposed to have brought this up?
Who from DAWA regularly attends GPJA meetings? (Organising meetings or GPJA Forums?)
Where's the debate and discussion been on this issue?
"But I never saw any sign of the Alliance calling for or promoting strike action and occupations of military facilities to help stop the war"
I don't recall where DAWA called for such action at any GPJA meeting where it hit any 'brick wall'.
Be fair folks!
GPJA has a lot of activists who have had quite a track record in taking action over the years on various issues.
Let's be balanced and reasoned in our criticisms, and keep it based on the facts.
Very keen to know the facts.
WHERE WAS THE 'BRICK WALL'?
(Incidently - just a small reality check for those who want to call for a 'General Strike' - it is useful to remember that only 17% of workers are currently members of ANY union.
Having had a bit of background in the union movement myself, I know that to organise general stoppages of any type involves stop work meetings, discussions on the job, votes over taking action - on the job.
When workplaces don't have union members, let alone job delegates - how are meetings going to be organised?
Who is going to call the meeting?
It's not like flicking on a light switch! (bugger)
In my experience, it takes a lot more work than calling for a 'General Strike' for it to actually to happen - and while
only 17% of workers are even members of unions in NZ - such a call is just plain silly - with all due respect.
Call for specific strikes maybe, but general strikes - with the current level of union organisation - no.
(In my considered opinion)
To make working class, work place-based action happen - it has to be organised.
At the workplace.
Cheers
Penny