Yes I was deliberately provocative, but it was an honest question. Appreciate the ensuing discussion. Never mind Marxist attitudes to these things - we are all so totally used to electric power and various offshoots of mass production that its just sort of assumed they will always be there, regardless of anything else we do.

My view is, if you take a stand against some form of energy you're assuming some responsibility for suggesting another.

And, Like the man said:
".. if society was run for the needs of people, rather than profit, i'm sure we would be well on our way."

Speed the day.