So a shura of shuras/soviet of soviets is authoritarian now? Is there a single successful revolution that passes muster with you?

But stepping back from this quite abstract debate, I'd be interested to know Omar's and other anarchists' views about the demand for a Palestinian state. Do you back it as a step toward the goal Omar outlined, and if so do you have a preference over what shape it assumes (eg one versus two state solutions) and how do you think it brings your gaol closer?

I remember a few years back a Kiwi anarchist zine ran an article which said 'We don't believe in Palestine for the Palestinians any more than we believe in England for the English'. In the context of the real-life situation in Palestine that struck me as a very unfortunate statement. On the other hand the North America anarchist group NEFAC came out for a Palestinian step as a step forward, but it wasn't clear what sort of state they wanted.