There were no atrocities committed by the Police or Government. The atrocities were committed by 3 individuals. The Police hierarchy did not send them forth to rape women. The courts could not possibly convict on the evidence presented as it was all hearsay. If courts were to convict on hearsay evidence the process would be wide open to corruption. I could have you convicted on treason by simply saying that I overheard you plotting to kill Helen Clarke. Wouldn't you agree that a balanced system could not work on that basis?
You're trying to undermine an institution that does a great job. I don't picture you as a strong moral person given your comments and I wonder just how long you would last in a society where Police did not exist. You extol violence, but I doubt you could deliver.
You also talk of education and yet you make wide sweeping generalised claims with no facts whatsoever. Perhaps you need to spend a little more time working on the education you advocate; to develop more informative, constructive criticism that will actually benefit the greater community.
"The courts could not possibly convict on the evidence presented as it was all hearsay. "
so as long as rapists aren't so stupid as to rape in front of witnesses, it will always be impossible to convict them. Much rather that than corruption -- wait that is corruption. It means any man can get away with raping any woman, because it will always be her word against his. Most women know that's how it is now, you seem to think that's a good thing.
Testimony is only one form of evidence. Physical evidence carries a greater weight than testimony. This is unlikely to be present after 20+ years though.
Right. But you know, there usually isn't physical evidence. Unless you mean evidence of sex, and then it comes down to hearsay again -- she says it was rape, he says it was consensual sex.
And most women choose not to go to the police about a rape when it happens, for really good reasons (coping with the psychological effect of rape is bad enough without then having to deal with going through the legal system, especially if you are connected to the rapist as most women are). Therefore the way the legal system operates, if a woman comes forward when she feels able and inclined to cope, she will find it almost impossible to see her rapist convicted.
Re: Re: March Against Police Rape
Date Edited: 08 Mar 2007 08:03:52 AM
There were no atrocities committed by the Police or Government. The atrocities were committed by 3 individuals. The Police hierarchy did not send them forth to rape women. The courts could not possibly convict on the evidence presented as it was all hearsay. If courts were to convict on hearsay evidence the process would be wide open to corruption. I could have you convicted on treason by simply saying that I overheard you plotting to kill Helen Clarke. Wouldn't you agree that a balanced system could not work on that basis?
You're trying to undermine an institution that does a great job. I don't picture you as a strong moral person given your comments and I wonder just how long you would last in a society where Police did not exist. You extol violence, but I doubt you could deliver.
You also talk of education and yet you make wide sweeping generalised claims with no facts whatsoever. Perhaps you need to spend a little more time working on the education you advocate; to develop more informative, constructive criticism that will actually benefit the greater community.
All the best in your endeavours.
JMH
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so as long as rapists aren't so stupid as to rape in front of witnesses, it will always be impossible to convict them. Much rather that than corruption -- wait that is corruption. It means any man can get away with raping any woman, because it will always be her word against his. Most women know that's how it is now, you seem to think that's a good thing.
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And most women choose not to go to the police about a rape when it happens, for really good reasons (coping with the psychological effect of rape is bad enough without then having to deal with going through the legal system, especially if you are connected to the rapist as most women are). Therefore the way the legal system operates, if a woman comes forward when she feels able and inclined to cope, she will find it almost impossible to see her rapist convicted.
Great system if you want to punish women.