Tim I wasnt complaining. I was observing the reality in NZ and other so-called 'Western' countries of the pathetic state of the so-called 'peace' movement.

My point was that we must remedy this by building for mass strike action against our military being used to oppress nations, and supporting the Iraqi resistance, which is winning the war against the invaders, but at a huge price.

Marching, burning flags, taking on the cops, are NOT effective in building a serious movement in the working class to take on capitalist and imperialist wars.

We have a long way to go before we get even to the level of the anti-Vietnam war movement of the 1960s and 1970s.
I posted a statement from the League for a Fifth International on how we need to prepare mass organised action to stop Bush and Co attacking Iran.

indymedia.org.nz/newswire/display/72783/index.php

There are plenty of ideas on how to step up our organisation to meet this threat, such as mass stopworks, school boycotts, pickets of military bases etc etc.

And as Scott suggest above, we should start close to home with actions to stop NZ troops from being deployed in East Timor, Solomons etc.

Dave Brown