McCarthyism 2 seems to be alive and well in this community - the unquestioning assumption that "police wrong" demonstrates this.

You may claim you know these people, but how well? Do you know everyithing about their connections, goals and what they talk about when you are not around? Why do you think the police's knowledge of what was going on is somehow less than yours? You say the police know nothing yet the police are also credited with a Stalinist level of surveillance, a net work of informers and spies ...

Ponder this - why refer to Maori seperatists are "comrades." Their goals are antithetical to socialism. Simply because you share a common opposition to the iron heel of the oligarchs, isn't enough. Otherwise, you'd welcome in the neo-nazis and Destiny Church.