Of all the people in "The media", Bradbury is probably your best shot at a sympathetic hearing. Of course the commercial media will make it up - especially when you don't give them the time of day.
I admire anyone who is prepared to take a stand. What I don't admire is stupidity. Talk of the "enemy" and the "filth" is exactly the same melodramatic nonsense Neo-Nazis and criminals use to justify their antics. One who believes they can change the world by force is a fascist.
These sentiments are the kind of post-pubescent, purile fantasies I used to have. I have found better ways to influence people, occasionally I’ve taken it out on property. I try to avoid taking out my problems against other people. Simply because it doesn't work, and what goes around comes around.
I don’t know much about this business, so I cannot make any calls as to the intentions of these people. But going on what I have read on this site, there is a lot of anger and resentment. What I don't see is a lot of clear thinking.
The real enemy is within. You has to decide whether you are going to use power and propaganda, or are you going to use information and influence. A person can't make me or anyone else agree with their ideas without my consent. Activism or fascism? what is it to be?
I think that there is a huge difference in puting out comment to the media as a movement and activists being bullied or mainpulated into talking to the media or the state for that matter.
The point is that these are very serious charges and that gossip and any information leaked to the media or state could be have unforseen results especially as we don't fully know what is going on yet.
As for talk of the enemy and the filth, anyone who believes that they can change the world without recognising that the state, capitalism and their goons are enemies of the animals, land and people is an idiot.
So anyone who doesn't agree with you is an "idiot". That is a revealing comment.
Have you ever considered the idea, that if someone doesn't agree with you they may have different values from your own?
Do you seriously expect to change the world by calling people names and demonizing the "enemy"?
The State is not a singular entity, neither is capitalism or their "goons". These are people. The state is neither for or against you. The State is indifferent to your existence. Blaming “The State” or religions or capitalism for the evils of the world is delusional and does not make you perfect or right. It all comes down to people.
Many laws and rules are unjust. However, it depends entirely on what and who you are dealing with. If you treat an individual with disrespect, would that person be likely to warm to your message and treat you well?
Activism needs a strong philosophical base, visionary leadership and courage. Activism does not need muddle headed militants who project their own emotional inadequacies onto the "enemy". This kind of person completely undermine the groups objectives and are a public relations disaster. Activism needs BRAINS as well as hearts and intestines.
Do you have the courage to discuss ideas with equals and use your powers of persuasion to allow people their sovereign right to make up their own minds?
activism of fascism?
Date Edited: 16 Oct 2007 06:05:34 AM
I admire anyone who is prepared to take a stand. What I don't admire is stupidity. Talk of the "enemy" and the "filth" is exactly the same melodramatic nonsense Neo-Nazis and criminals use to justify their antics. One who believes they can change the world by force is a fascist.
These sentiments are the kind of post-pubescent, purile fantasies I used to have. I have found better ways to influence people, occasionally I’ve taken it out on property. I try to avoid taking out my problems against other people. Simply because it doesn't work, and what goes around comes around.
I don’t know much about this business, so I cannot make any calls as to the intentions of these people. But going on what I have read on this site, there is a lot of anger and resentment. What I don't see is a lot of clear thinking.
The real enemy is within. You has to decide whether you are going to use power and propaganda, or are you going to use information and influence. A person can't make me or anyone else agree with their ideas without my consent. Activism or fascism? what is it to be?
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Re: activism of fascism?
The point is that these are very serious charges and that gossip and any information leaked to the media or state could be have unforseen results especially as we don't fully know what is going on yet.
As for talk of the enemy and the filth, anyone who believes that they can change the world without recognising that the state, capitalism and their goons are enemies of the animals, land and people is an idiot.
Re: Re: activism of fascism?
Have you ever considered the idea, that if someone doesn't agree with you they may have different values from your own?
Do you seriously expect to change the world by calling people names and demonizing the "enemy"?
The State is not a singular entity, neither is capitalism or their "goons". These are people. The state is neither for or against you. The State is indifferent to your existence. Blaming “The State” or religions or capitalism for the evils of the world is delusional and does not make you perfect or right. It all comes down to people.
Many laws and rules are unjust. However, it depends entirely on what and who you are dealing with. If you treat an individual with disrespect, would that person be likely to warm to your message and treat you well?
Activism needs a strong philosophical base, visionary leadership and courage. Activism does not need muddle headed militants who project their own emotional inadequacies onto the "enemy". This kind of person completely undermine the groups objectives and are a public relations disaster. Activism needs BRAINS as well as hearts and intestines.
Do you have the courage to discuss ideas with equals and use your powers of persuasion to allow people their sovereign right to make up their own minds?