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Re: An Open Letter to Bomber about the Dawn Raids

""Iaccusation that any of them were handling guns with the aim of hurting people - the accusation which forms the basis on which they are being denied bail and threatened with Terrorism Suppression Act charges.""

So then they had the guns why?

"home invasion, intimidation, kidnapping, and assault across the country. Not only do I have evidence of these actions"

Would be good if you could produce it then, who got assaulted and when. And I'm guessing now every time Police execute a search warrant or arrest someone you will be up in arms about it being a home invasion and a kidnapping, or is it only thus when its your friends who are arrested.

"The elderly socialist in Orkland with the terrifying trousers."

This is the guy in Orakei whose house was searched with his consent by Police looking for a chrome pistol and a hunting knife in relation to kidnapping and extortion demands involving the head hunters? Something which has no connection at all to the argument you are attempting to make.

"I bet you Bomber that when the cops finally unveil their evidence to the public (which at the rate things are going could take years), middle new zealand will be horrified - by it's utter lack of substance. This will cast a distinctly unflattering light on the NZ Police, SIS, GCSB, SAS, and everyone else who's helped perpetuate, and apologise for, yet another example of the creeping erosion of democracy in Aotearoa."

So the Police and co just organized this whole thing to make themselves look incredibly bad and sacrifice the careers of the officers involved. I'm interested to see what evidence you have that it is just a big set-up aside from such compelling and convincing stuff as oh they belong to a peace movement they couldn't possibly be involved, or he looks like Harry Potter ergo he's innocent as well.

Its also interesting that if the Police don't actually have any evidence, exactly on what basis have all these Judges throughout the country seen fit to remand those involved in custody. Given that the Police must convince them throughly of the strength of their evidence. Did all the Judges decide to sacrifice their careers as well?

I'm sure that if it all does come out to be false as you claim, heads will role within the Police and compensation and apologies will follow. But what if the Police do have the evidence which they claim to? will you issue a public apology admitting you were wrong?
 
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Re: Re: An Open Letter to Bomber about the Dawn Raids

Who says they had any guns, mate? You've seen no evidence they had gun, because the police haven't let you see this supposed "evidence". Funny how you have created the evidence in your own mind.

If the police had any real evidence - rather than hints, guesses and extrapolations - they would have made it public and shut us all up already. Something we can all agree on is that these processes where people can be held for up to two years without bail or trial on the basis of secret evidence are an affront to every democratic liegal principle.

The really hilarious thing is this guy is saying "you don't have any evidence of innocence", when there has been ZERO EVIDENCE OF GUILT exposed yet. Obviously when you're a right-wing troll salivating at the idea of locking up dirty hippies and restless natives, your own principles of "innocent until proven guilty" go out the window. Which just proves the essential depravity and lust for punishment of the conservative mind.

Oh, and when you're a 72 year old guy with cancer and eight carloads of heavily armed cops turn up, "consent" doesn't actually mean anything.
 

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