"It would be nice if people actually took a deep breath on all sides and ease up.",,,,, that is precisely what would NOT be nice. that is about theee weakest thing done right now, the opposite is what is called for, dramatically. Why aren't there major traffic jams yet? (very effectice activism), why aren't there some serious punches being thrown back? because they speak one language, violence, and when you(Aotearoans) learn to speak it, they(filthy british pigs) will then listen.
Seriously, do you guys think that bagging someone's family counts as a political argument? Helen Clark's folks are Tories, so I suppose that means she's in the wrong party according to your logic.
<em>because they speak one language, violence, and when you(Aotearoans) learn to speak it, they(filthy british pigs) will then listen.</em>
So wrong on so many levels. For those of us committed to peace all violence is wrong. But for those who are not, think tactically.
It is the police and the state who have the resources to use violence, not the people. Arming the people to undertake a violent campaign will trigger a horrific response. Study history!
The police were stupid not to arrest Richards from the footage I have seen (tho I was not there), and they have been acting like spoiled children harassing activists up and down the country. But a violent response will not make it better. These spoiled children have guns.
The state in Aotearoa does not have the spine to extend their use of violence into lethal violence at this point. The death squads are still in their barracks! If we fight back without violence we will be arrested, harassed and beaten, and eventually we will win.
If we fight back with violence we will be massacred. Win or loose. Dead is dead.
Get some sense. Learn from history. Do not repeat it.
Re: 150 People Protest Labour Conference in Tamaki Makaurau
Date Edited: 03 Nov 2007 05:35:00 PM
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go home Alex
Go home Labour Party hack
Re: Re: 150 People Protest Labour Conference in Tamaki Makaurau
So wrong on so many levels. For those of us committed to peace all violence is wrong. But for those who are not, think tactically.
It is the police and the state who have the resources to use violence, not the people. Arming the people to undertake a violent campaign will trigger a horrific response. Study history!
The police were stupid not to arrest Richards from the footage I have seen (tho I was not there), and they have been acting like spoiled children harassing activists up and down the country. But a violent response will not make it better. These spoiled children have guns.
The state in Aotearoa does not have the spine to extend their use of violence into lethal violence at this point. The death squads are still in their barracks! If we fight back without violence we will be arrested, harassed and beaten, and eventually we will win.
If we fight back with violence we will be massacred. Win or loose. Dead is dead.
Get some sense. Learn from history. Do not repeat it.
peace
Worik