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FBI subpoenas the flag.blackened.net Server

#media_4830;left# The FBI has recently sent two subpoenas to the website administrator of the flag.blackened.net webserver. Recently there have been rumours circulating in anarchist circles the flag's webmaster had been contacted by the FBI, he has released this press release to notify the wider activist community on what has been going on. The Flag server host many of anarchism's most widely viewed websites and the removal of this sever would be a major blow to anarchist organising worldwide.

He has been ordered on two separate occasions to submit IP information of people using certain subdomains hosted on the flag server one of which was the popular Infoshop News. These relate to people claiming responsibility for "propaganda by the deed". The moderator believes at least one of these cases are by people trying to make the flag server "vulnerable to government intrusion".

The FBI in recent years, has gone after a number of radical/revolutionary left wing websites, most notably are the shutting down of the raise the fist website and subsequent jailing of it's webmaster Sherman Austin and also targeting many on the Indymedia network.

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Re: FBI subpoenas the flag.blackened.net Server

shut up jason you nazi retard, any anarchist could kick your skinny bitch arse.
 

Re: FBI subpoenas the flag.blackened.net Server

"if you post here anonymously, i can still see the IP you used every time i read the message."

If you use an anonymous proxy to post your messages, who gives a flying fuck what the IP address reads in the phpBB database, its not your real one it is the IP of the anonymous proxy server. The point being the FBI will have already subpoenaed the ISP's records which will contain all incoming and outgoing connections, so what again is the point of obscuring the logs, when doing so will only get the webserver admin in the shit, when really, it should be the asshole that posted without using an anonymous proxy that cops the flak.

Let me put this in simpler terms. If you decide to do a bank robbery and do not wear a mask, who should be liable for the robbery, you, or the person you borrowed the getaway car from?

If a webserver admin is going to allow subversive content to be posted on their server then they have to be ready to be raided or subpoenaed. Its a fact of life. If they tamper with the files and the FBI can prove that the tampering happened after the subpoena was issued then the admin will be charged with tampering with evidence and depending on what was deleted, could lead to jailtime.

Reality check, again, use anonymous proxys, there is no reason why these webserver admins should have to go to jail to cover for the carelessness of others.

Molloy, everytime you take time to write something here, there is a sheep in your backyard whose ass goes lonely awaiting your fulfillment.
 

Re: FBI subpoenas the flag.blackened.net Server

Heres a list I just tested:
Often times when you get proxies from websites like www.stayinvisible.com you will find that the proxies listed as anonymous or high anonymous, still pass thru either the client-ip or the x-forwarded-for ip so are not anonymous.

These are completely anonymous in the sense that your IP will not be passed through in any of the possible http header fields.

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158.108.4.249:3128
165.139.191.236:8080
62.193.231.241:8080
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209.189.231.33:8080
220.110.175.26:8080
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165.138.175.85:8080
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The other thing about proxy server lists is that you should really get a new list every week and test them rather than just keep using the same old list week after week.

Jolly
 

Re: FBI subpoenas the flag.blackened.net Server

what are you using to test the proxys with MJ?
 

Re: FBI subpoenas the flag.blackened.net Server

I am on a WinXP computer here.
 

Re: FBI subpoenas the flag.blackened.net Server

Go FBI!! Crush those anarchist fuckstains!!
 

Re: FBI subpoenas the flag.blackened.net Server

There has been a bit of confusion to what logs the FBI requested.

Dave, the webmaster of flag issued the following statement to clear up the confusion:

"i keep http logs around for a few days to track worms etc. which are pretty frequent. i delete them much more quickly than is normally recommended for basic unix security.

none of the information i provided is from an http log. when you post to phpbb, mediawiki, geeklog etc. etc., your ip is recorded with your post. it's not a log, it's built into the software. admins can see it.

if you post here anonymously, i can still see the IP you used every time i read the message. it's permanent and it's not something i can change without changing to different software."

The IP logs that were requested were on one (or more) of the 50 or so websites the dave hosts but does not administer
 

Re: FBI subpoenas the flag.blackened.net Server

Smeeeeeeagoool
 

Re: FBI subpoenas the flag.blackened.net Server

I'm baffled as to why IP addresses aren't dropped by the firewall [I'm guessing that he would have another computer doing firewalling] .. the server running this site doesn't log IP addresses, cause it can't see any.

Sure, the police could seize ISP records, but that isn't my headache [other than to educate users to use proxies].
 

Re: FBI subpoenas the flag.blackened.net Server

Jolly is a UNIX weener so no point in asking him about windows apps ;)

Try Proxy Recon, works like a charm...
Download here: http://indymedia.org.nz/usermedia/application/5/ProxyRecon.zip

Kom
 

Re: FBI subpoenas the flag.blackened.net Server

Anarcho, only primitave lifeforms (negros, other non-whites & the liberal/anarchist retards) resort to violence.
 

Re: FBI subpoenas the flag.blackened.net Server

hystory, as per usual, totally disagrees with your hastely thought out, frightened, racist assertion.
 

Re: FBI subpoenas the flag.blackened.net Server

Red-Hunter:My girlfriend is Japanese, Does that make me a traitor?

Join the Red Leigion :->
 

Re: FBI subpoenas the flag.blackened.net Server

I knew things had reached a really bad point when there were gunboats in the Savannah river and machine gun enplacemants on the buildings durring the G8 debacle. There can be no going back!!! This is our country and we are obligated to keep it free of facists at any cost.
 

Re: FBI subpoenas the flag.blackened.net Server

racism means never having to say you've evolved.
 

Re: FBI subpoenas the flag.blackened.net Server

In reality there is fuck all this person can do. I would say to them to give the records over to the FBI and take the hit....and before you all pull out your horns let me pull mine out first and explain why.

Anyone using the internet to post subversive content, content that calls for overthrow, nationwide insurgency etc SHOULD DO SO FROM BEHIND AN ANONYMOUS PROXY!!! Any fuckwit that tries to post that stuff without anonymonity can go get fucked as far as Im concerned.

A server host could well fiddle with the apache logs and hand them to the FBI, if they so wished but it wouldnt take long for the FBI to match the apache logs to the ISP logs and see that they have been altered, thus resulting in the server host copping it again.

Learn to use anonymonity people, make it your standard practice online, there is nothing these webhosts can do if the gestapo come door knocking, if your real IP address is passed through because you neglected using anonymous proxies then tough fucking cheese...we don't use such laxed practices offline, why would anyone do so online and expect magic to happen.

Jolly
 

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