nice to see indymedia aotearoa saving its own butt at the expense of truth, justice and real freedom.
Well done editors.
Full solidarity to [named removed at request of said named person] and other brave welly wimmin.

I hope its alright to post this here, since I heard that even linking to websites that have suppressed information on them can be seen as the same thing as contempt of court. SO please feel free to remove this if it is so.

For those that are not aware yet of what was possibly suppressed by the court, the crewz at Aotearoa Cafe are still listing what is thought to be the suppressed information.
www.aotearoa.maori.nz/forums/viewtopic.php

Hi Jo,

I'm on the Indy editorial collective and I agree with you. We've been arguing within the ed collective about what to do and no agreement has been reached - this feature is a half-assed compromise for now.

I think if it was just the legality of it, then we'd have had consensus by now and would have the info here. But there is another issue about whether publishing this information will eventually mean that other cases that are being brought against these same men will not be tried at all because some judge decides that they can't have a fair trial. This is why the leaflets have stopped being handed out, and why the original blog with the info on it has been deleted. I still think it should go up, but that's what we've been arguing about...

perhaps indymedia shouldn't rely on the justice system to exact justice on these ex-pigs? if a hundred people were to follow these rapists whenever they appear in public and circulate pamphlets telling the truth to everyone who comes near to these wankers then they would be ostracised from society and some justice therefore done? just an idea.

Ironically the 'other issues' are in some ways similar to the reasons the judge suppressed the information in the first place, issues of prejudice. But lets not forget this is about Louise Nicholas and justice for her, and the injustice perpetrated against her by the 'process of justice' which you seem to now have some sort of faith in.

Ive got a spare 22 DK, if I send it to you will you put your money where your mouth is?

its the oldest cop trick in the book. feed you half a fish so that you assume the other thing they feed you is the other half of the fish. yeah its a no brainer that these arseholes will be up for more charges of rape, its clear they have gotten away with blue murder for years so there will be more wahine out there that were raped by them, but the 'other cases that are being brought against these same men will not be tried at all because some judge decides' bit is just cop psycho korero.

I'm also on the editorial collective, and I'd like to echo what Torrance said. The discussion is still ongoing.

for your sake DK may we never meet in person.

Back to the kaupapa
www.tv3.co.nz/News/tabid/67/articleID/5993/Default.aspx latest news

can a judge in NZ force a defendant to take the stand and ask questions about his past convictions? why isn't it relevant to the public? can't juries consider the facts of the case without putting great bias on the accused due to other, albeit similar, offences they've been found guilty of? doesn't the public have the right to know even if juries are kept in the dark? aren't jurors meant to not talk about the case to the public or be exposed to any media about the case? name suppression seems to me like manipulation of the public and the whole idea of keeping the jury untainted just an excuse perhaps? where do courts draw the line re suppressing past convictions? why sometimes suppressed and other times considered relevant? what line is being drawn? if a rape victim is forced to take the stand then why not the accused too? how can they decide who's telling the truth based on just facts when in some cases the evidence isn't sufficient? why not have the testimony of the 'liars' considered as evidence? isn't it close to admission of guilt if a lawyer considers his client unable to testify in open court and so have the lawyer do the dirty work for them? if an accused rapist is innocent why wouldn't he want to try to convince the jury of his innocent directly and honestly? if he raped one woman surely adult jurors can consider the merits of a case without judging someone solely on their other convictions?

Torrance said:
But there is another issue about whether publishing this information will eventually mean that other cases that are being brought against these same men will not be tried at all because some judge decides...."

no doubt if it was the under cover cops that said that, it was said to create the affect it is having here in this very online forum.

perhaps tim, but the circumstances of their imprisonment was also suppressed by the judge was it not?

DKhead, i hear the only thing you blow up is your date.

Hey people, in case you are worried about breaking name suppression it is actually quite o.k. to say:

Two out of the three accused policemen in Louise Nichol's trial had previously been convicted of gang rape last year

No one is named directly yet so name suppression isn't broken yet the message get across.

Hope you don't delete this!

Aotearoa Indymedia is a collective and we arrive at decisions collectively .. this takes time. Feel free to publish the suppressed information yourself if you are feeling impatient, anonymously if you prefer: indymedia.org.nz/newswire/display_any/37531

Tim B. - if it was legally ok to say that, how come none of the mainstream media have? It would have been a great scoop for them.

see www.aotearoa.maori.nz/forums/viewtopic.php for latest intel on rickard

Re: new info on Rickard. Why am I not surprised to read that :-( GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

In another countries, especially these where IMPUNITY run amok, groups of ex-victims and allied stages SCRATCHES or collectives denouncements of these accused .they set marches to their homes, they leaflet their emplyers, they distribute their photographs,Usually this ends in the impuned accused moving out, losing their jobs or fleeing to avoid further embarrasement.It also gives back the people( or so called victims) the power of symbolic JUSTICE.This is an idea to discuss it further

If you are able to offer assistance to the campaign or want to get in touch with us, please send us an email to womenagainstrape (at) hotmail.com

Cross posted from the Aotearoa Cafe:

To be honest I think this is such a grey area I think it will be difficult for any internet website admin collectives to be convicted, however more importantly in the end it comes down to whether or not having possible references to suppressed information may lead to future cases like the one Paru has listed being thrown out of court. This is more important to all of the website administration teams and blog owners that have so far pulled what they believe is the suppressed information.

However the cat is way out of the bag on that, and was the day those leaflets were distributed. Even if no other media outlet ran with the story, it is still possible that future defence teams could prevent cases against their clients ever seeing the light of day in court. This situation is way past the point of no return concerning the possible risk it has placed on future rape charges against these criminal serial rapists.

No doubt this is the reasons why the judge suppressed the information in the first place. The system of justice is supposed to be unbias and everyone deserves their day in court. I personally do not have a beef with the judges decision, they are all like guardians of their legal system, I like many others here just cannot stomach seeing injustice like this.

On the other hand, if it is true that two of those cops are in jail already, then that is justice on one level, on another level Rickard missed out on getting the top job, which was his for the taking until his past caught up with him. Although the time does not match the crime in his case, he is not getting away with it completely scott-free.

Discussing this with some of the administrative collective, the outcome being that we do not see the point of removing what has been said due to the fact that the net is now awash with it.

Many thousands of people in this country now know beyond doubt that Nicholas is the victim here, has been schredded by the court and media, and the state, all in the name of justice - yet she has received none.

We also believe that since these rapists have been able to use the system in this case to get them aquitted of gang rape, that there is more chance that in the future they will be able to do the same thing, due to the fact that as each case reaches court, more and more evidence will be suppressed.

Paru Kiore has volunteered to be the one charged for contempt of court should it ever eventuate to that, and he can be found at this address below:

Paru Kiore
592nd Kauri Tree
Waipoua Forest
Northland
Occupied Territories of Aotearoa

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i've been all over new york city gettos, los angales ca, and chicago, and in all the gettos i've been to cops are what you fear the most. they are the most notorious gansters of all.
we send our love and support to you from every getto occupied by these gansters.

You know the more I think about this, the more questions arise as to why would the crown law office and minister of justice allocate so much funding for the prosecution of one of its top cops if in fact the chances of them ever winning that case was slim at best.

I mean surely when the crown puts millions of $$$$ as it has into the investigation and prosections, that somewhere along the way the justice minister will ask the question, what are their chances of putting this guy away. That say, the allocation of 10+ million dollars to the Crown Law Office would be made if they could give some guarantees that Rickard will go down for his crimes.

In the Abbot case it was a cover up by the Police dept that got him off the murder rap, that and a lack of funding on the whanau side, the police dept's investment into that was merely half a million (defence lawyers and flash hotels to stay in).

Compare that to what they have put into supposedly trying to put Rickard away (something like 20 times that).

Heres a conclusion that, the more I think about it, the more it seems apparent to me.

They never intended to put him away, since they knew they wouldn't be able to due to the amount of suppressed unusable evidence crucial to the prosecution - namely 'priors' was withheld by the judge.

It seems clear to me that the Crown knew it had shit between its arsecheeks (Rickard the rapist), and that shit was about to take the lead role at the top of the cop pile, which should that have taken place, would have resulted in unphathomable embarrassment to the justice dept and crown.

It also appears that in the same vein, that they have wiped their arse of Rickard using the Louise Nicholas gang rape case as the toilet paper, with little or no thought to how this would impact on her and her whanau.

No sooner had the trial ended and Rickard walked away a free man, the very next move the crown did was appoint the new Police Commissioner Howard Broad, easy to do with Rickard snuggly out of the running.

...and used up and tossed out at the bottom of that pile of crap is a wahine that was *repeatedly raped by constabulary forces...and is still waiting for justice.

*a common practice of using their position as cops with the power to arrest and falsely imprision should they not be given sexual favours on demand, that has been going on in this country since at LEAST the 1950's - first case I ever heard of happened back then - was dealt with by the process of tikanga called MURU.

Te hia nei, te kai te manawa oo teeraa pookokohua, hamuti, aia kai te panapana!!! Ruuruu te upoko nei ki te ripa ki te ripa.
Kia heke mai te toto i ngaa paapaaringa!!!
Tiikape te para ki te kuri.

POOKOKOHUA!!!

Is it possible to have a translation for that thanks.

I'll try my best. If there are others out there that are better at this please feel free to correct my translation.



From the looks of it, it is written in a poetic form.



"This desire,

is to eat the beating heart of that low life cursed one, that human excrement,

shaking the head from side to side,

allowing the blood to descend down the cheeks,

throwing aside the leftovers/scraps to the dog."

If her flatmate at the time who was there when the so called rape took place testified that she was not raped but was enjoying her self then how come everyone still thinks it was rape. Even though I am male and think rape is a horrible crime the facts still speak for themselves.

judicial supression is a problem all over the world, in evansville indiana it may take a complaint to the mayors office to get the cops to take a report, i don't know what it takes to have a judge to hear a case, i know of two that the judge just wanted to clear his docket.

More fucking evidence of how much of cover up these bastards have been running...

"Sunday Star Times
February 22, 2004

Family ties in botched police rape inquiries
by Rachel Grunwell

Allegations against cop's cousin were ignored
`Because the rapist enjoyed a "good relationship" with officers, police refused to believe he was capable of any wrong-doing.'


Former policeman Bob Schollum, one of three men facing pack-rape allegations in the Louise Nicholas case, is the cousin of a rapist at the centre of two botched police rape investigations.

Schollum worked as an officer at Murupara around the time staff ignored two rape complaints involving his cousin. One case was later investigated by different staff and the man was jailed.

But Schollum said yesterday he knew "absolutely nothing" of both cases and was mystified about why a police report said he was interviewed in relation to the cases.

Asked whether the fact his cousin was the accused may have led police to ignore the complaints, Schollum said he did not know if staff knew they were related.

In both cases, it was later recommended by former detective inspector Graham Bell that police commissioner Rob Robinson apologise for police inaction. But only one victim has so far received a formal apology.

Name suppression was this month lifted for one of these victims, Rhondda Herbert-Savage, to whom Robinson apologised in 2000. Herbert-Savage was twice raped as a teenager in Murupara in the 1980s.

The same man who raped Herbert-Savage also sexually offended against three girls and police failed to properly act on this complaint.

In a report written in 1996, Bell said policing in Murupara at the time was superficial and that because the rapist enjoyed a "good relationship" with officers, police refused to believe he was capable of any wrongdoing so did not record the complaints or investigate.

Schollum said yesterday he no longer had contact with his cousin.

Bell's report said the three girls' case "did not receive the police attention it deserved" and Herbert-Savage's case was "grossly inadequate".

Herbert-Savage fought for her apology and wants compensation, but the mother of the three girls was unaware police had also recommended an apology for her case.

Bell said in the report there was no doubt in his mind the mother reported the sexual abuse of her daughters to then-sergeant Warren Smith in Murupara immediately after she found one of her children in bed with the offender.

"I have no doubt that sergeant Smith went to the house and took (the offender) away as described by (the mother) but that from there, no further action was taken. No explanation for this dereliction of duty is given by the sergeant as he claims to have no recollection of the events," said Bell. All officers at the station knew about the complaints but did nothing, he said.

It was after the girls again complained and the man was jailed that Herbert-Savage's mishandled complaint came to light. The man was tried for her rape but was acquitted. However, Bell said he had no doubt the man was guilty but the case was hindered because of the delay to court and lost medical evidence.

A government-ordered commission of inquiry into police behaviour follows Louise Nicholas' allegations Schollum, now a Napier car salesman, Tauranga city councillor Brad Shipton and police assistant commissioner Clint Rickards, pack-raped her as a teenager in Rotorua in the 1980s. All three men deny this and say the sex was consensual."

www.peterellis.org.nz/people/ClintRickards/2004-0222_SST_FamilyTies.htm

"Waikato Times
February 16, 2004

Muddy waters getting murkier

".........

Add in at least another two women now alleging historical rapes by police; and John Dewar, the former inspector who handled Nicholas' initial complaint, badly apparently, and who is alleged to have engaged in group sex with one of the accused on another occasion."

www.peterellis.org.nz/people/ClintRickards/2004-0216_WaikatoTimes_MuddyWaters.htm

Why oh why I wonder would've they done this?

"NZ Herald
February 6, 2004

Police HQ orders staff to close ranks on past culture in the force
by Jo-Marie Brown and NZPA

Police officers have been warned not to speak out about the culture that existed within the force at the time Louise Nicholas says she was pack-raped.

In a memo circulated to staff, the general manager of public affairs at police national headquarters, Michael Player, said staff should not respond to any media requests for information about what their working lives were like in past decades."

www.peterellis.org.nz/people/ClintRickards/2004-0206_NZHerald_PoliceHQ.htm

Would someone with webskills and the time be able to create a website or blog which could archive all and any information RE: Police Rape in NZ?

It would appear according to a report by national radio that the suppression order surrounding this case could be lifted as the information has been spread for too widely:

"once the information is out there it is very difficult to get it back, and the view of the courts is that once it is in the public domain, they will not longer maintain suppression orders." - Internet law specialist, Peter Dengate-Thrush,

www.radionz.co.nz/news/latest/200604071223/1d35af2b

Something is very rotten in Clarksville, previously known as New Zealand. I believe that a brave woman has been mangled by the injustice system in this country, and I really want to know why. Cops rule? The Wellington coven rules? What is going in in godzone?

seattle.indymedia.org/en/2006/04/252577.shtml


ouch!

I worry that LN may indeed have been raped, and if so, that is awful. Rape is illegal. However so too is releasing supressed information. Do the protesters actually believe women are safer in a country where so many people have absolute disregard for the rule of law?

hmm, dude comparing rape to people handing out information that has been suppressed is just so far of the mark that I'm not sure where to begin. Just because they are both illegal doesn't make them the same!

Anyway, the law doesn't work or protect people- we have one of the highest rates of domestic violence in the "western" world and only 5% or rape cases every result in a conviction in court.

As for respect for the law, yep I have now, not my laws, I didn't make them, they only serve the rich+powerful. Besides if sometime is illegal doesn't automatically follow its wrong, ie up until the 80s in NZ its was illegal to be homosexual, hmm

dan rae

I believe you Louise, you are a brave lady

This came through on a radio list I'm on.
BTW I'm not the Aaron mentioned below


> CKUT Radio: GUTS to Resist Police Violence
>
> Sexual assault used as a police weapon in Guelph, Ontario
>
> Listen to an interview with Nicole Freeborn and Alex Tinter of the
> Guelph
> Union of Tenants and Supporters (GUTS). On International Women's
> Day of
> this year (March 8/06), Nicole Freeborn was sexually assaulted by a
> cop at
> a demonstration.
>
> =:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:
> To download or listen to the program, visit:
> www.radio4all.net/proginfo.php
> =:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:
>
> On International Women's Day of 2006 (March 8), Nicole Freeborn, 27,
> attended a demonstration with the Guelph Union of Tenants and
> Supporters
> (GUTS) at the Ontario Housing Rights Tribunal in Guelph. The
> demonstration
> was to demand a raise to welfare rates in Ontario, and to make the
> links
> between poverty and institutionalized patriarchy in the province.
>
> At that demonstration, Guelph police intervened violently, and
> Nicole was
> grabbed and sexually assaulted by officer Brian Welsh in front of
> numerous
> witnesses.
>
> Nicole and GUTS have made a public appeal to denounce this act of
> police
> brutality and sexism,to have officer Welsh fired from the Guelph
> police
> force, and to launch an investigation into the incident. Nicole has
> received much support from coast to coast, but her demands have not
> been
> met.
>
> GUTS has put a call out for autonomous direct actions to be taken
> against
> the Guelph police force, and the Guelph city council. Last week, it
> was
> reported in the local news that a group called Anarchist Solidarity
> sabotaged the construction site of a new Guelph city hall, causing
> thousands of dollars worth of damage. Anarchist Solidarity released a
> statement that the action was taken in solidarity with Nicole.
>
> GUTS will be holding a militant night march in Guelph on Friday,
> April 7
> to denounce police violence and patriarchy.
>
> For more information, visit:
> www.guelphtenants.com
> www.cobp.ath.cx (Montreal collective against police brutality)
> www.ckut.ca
>
> Produced for the CKUT (90.3FM) community news collective in
> Montreal by
> Aaron Lakoff. Contact aaron (at) resist.ca

I accept that in certain cases a defendant's past crimes should be supressed,however when the circumstances of the alleged crime are IDENTICAL,then these facts should not be supressed.One law for millionaires,All Blacks and policemen,another law for the rest of us.No justice for Louise Nicholas,No justice for enyone.

Why is it that out of all the old newspaper file you can log on to in NZ,why is it that the only one I can not seem to log on to is the one in Rotorua,could it be that the powers that be dont want enyone looking for old photo files from Rotorua in 1986,and mybe finding photos of Mr Clint Rickards in his police uniform in 1986,enyone reading this and living in Rotorua,see if you can go in and do a manual search.Let us all know.

March for Louise

NOT ABOVE THE LAW
We Support Louise Nicholas MARCH
Sunday 30 April, 2.00 pm
Assemble Queen Elizabeth Square, Auckland (near Britomart)
March up Queen St to Aotea Square
Hear speakers from Rape Crisis, Auckland Sexual Abuse Help Foundation and others
Bring your friends, banners and placards

louise has told the truth all along i know i lived next door and same iwi

As much as sympathy for Louise Nicols plight is to be expected, I have had the most ridculous experince because of the conduct of some women including the management who exaggerate at the refuge anger management program with their coercive behaviors and gaslighting which is is unwanted abuse and a rollback of women's rights.
The Human Rights Act has been breached with referals to myself being pregnant and abuse on the phone. A women has a right to say no to being abused with belligerent women at the refuge and their nasty practices.

Using scaremongering tactics to force women to take take drugs is misjudged and poor judgement as the medications they force on women, men and children are known to cause the problems they are so afraid of. A women has a right to say no to the womens refuge and make informed choices as to who to seek legal advice from and to say no to forced drugging. Accusing a an absent partner from the courses offered of violence is a denial of a poor service offered in the first instance and so is accessing medical records without permission an invasion of privacy and leads to more abuses and unprofessional behaviors such as coercive harrassment.

The Health and Disablity Act is clear about harrassment, coercion and expliotation in terms of every person is entitled to be fully informed and has a right to privacy, and to complain.

Accusing an innocent person of violence, or pregancy, hounding their relatives, standover tactics at WINZ is intimadating and incompetant practice and so is calling a women repeatedly psychobitch for talking to her partner. As for interferring with a person's access to public places with continued harrassment, with hysterial claims of family violence as well as phone tapping. Bullshit! How disgusting!

There are no excuses for accusations of wasting time for a valid enquiry, ordering a volunteer to make payments from his benefit, taking money unauthorised by course attendees from benefits as that is not fraud or accusing making complaints on the phone based on manufactured records over 10 years is a whitewash and misleading to the public and unwanted abuse from very pushy women and manipulative doctors.

There are much safer non drug alternatives and it is time to wake up as there is nothing more demoralising than a bunch of blood thirsty women baying like hounds for a misleading and misguided cause. Women should not live in fear of their husbands and vice versa should the refuge encourage men or women to exert this abuse of power of harrassment and criminalising marriages. Having numbers does not make a phone manner and neither can you simply attempt to tap into emotions.

STOP THE VICTIMIZATION OF WOMEN THROUGH PSYCHOLOGICAL ABUSE OF THEIR RIGHTS TO SAY TO DANGEROUS AND HARMFUL BRAIN DAMAGING DRUGS THAT ARE ALREADY OVER PRESCRIBED IN NZ.

It's not really about belief or not as I see it but about police who seek to take their internal bullshit and make it public, wasting our tax payer money. Only those concerned directly will ever know for sure who is right and who is wrong and that alone makes a trial with no DNA evidence or similar therefore no evidence which unfortunately for all may have happened at a time period this wasn't freely available. Lets not make witchunts of all men who could have, and victims of all women who might have been without something concrete to stop the opinionated voices screaming every which way.

The new zealand police are arseholes I had a friend who was asulted they could'nt care less about the mater infact they tried to blame me for not doing more although i was being hit with full beer cans in the face. New Zealand Police = Uncaring Pricks.
I think the Louise is being treated like dirt by the New Zealand police and im not suprised they only take care of their own.

I have just finished reading your story and needed to tell you that I admire your strength.There are more people that believe you than those who dont.It has shaken our ideas on justice but stand tall and what a wonderful family you have.Love Marie

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