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People fighting back in Tonga - NZ Govt assisting the monarchy

Riots broke out in Tonga's capital Nuku'alofa after a demonstration on Thursday. About 800 people marched onto parliament with banners slogans calling for immediate reform, others attacked public figures, while another labeled the current structure a "deadly virus". At night, protesters set fires to businesses in the city centre and turned cars over. Windows were smashed in the Prime Minister's Office Parliament House, the Magistrates Court,the Public Service Commission Office, the Ministry of Finance and three vehicles overturned and government cars smashed in government parking lots. One company targeted was power company Shoreline, owned by the King. The aristocratic class control the economic and political aspects of life against which the people have been resisting for years. The protests and riots are part of the struggle against the feudal system which is oppressing the Tongan people.

The King and his government have now declared martial law. Some snippets: "Any person authorised by Cabinet, and every member of the Tonga Police Force and the Tonga Defence Services, shall for the purposes of preserving public order and securing the public safety, have power to order a meeting, procession of any assembly of 5 or more persons held in a place or building (whether public or private) to disperse; order every person to remain indoors between certain hours; regulate the movement or conduct of a person or class of persons; search or detain for the purpose of searching a person; detain any arrested person for a period not exceeding 48 hours."

The NZ and Australian Governments have now sent soldiers and cops to Tonga in attempt to crush the resistance. The capitalist media is trying to convince us here that the people are "welcoming" the troops but Tonga's pro-democracy movement has condemned the intervention. Pro-democracy supporter Akilisi Pohiva says the current regime and the monarchy have failed and can no longer maintain law and order. Peace Action Wellington held a protest against the deployment of troops to Tonga outside the New Zealand Defence Force Headquarters [ Photos ].

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Protest Against Deployment of Troops to Tonga
From: Peace Action Wellington
Date: 20 November 2006

Peace Action Wellington opposes the deployment of the New Zealand military and police to Tonga and will protest outside the New Zealand Defence Headquarters in Stout Street, Wellington, today (Monday, 20th November) from 12:30pm.

"These troops are serving the interests of the feudal class in Tonga, while crushing people's desire for change."

"We stand in solidarity with the people's resistance in Tonga and support them in their struggle for self determination," said Valerie
Morse.

"The Labour Government has supported recent occupations of Afghanistan and Iraq, and are again eagerly sending soldiers and police into the Pacific Islands," said Valerie Morse, a member of Peace Action Wellington.



 
 
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Re: People fighting back in Tonga - NZ Govt assisting the monarchy

Pohiva is right. The people no longer regard the monarchy as legitimate. The monarchy uses its power to exploit the people to enrich itself and its big power partners.
The people want genuine democracy and a sharing of the economic wealth.
Self-determination for Tonga!
Australian and NZ troops out!
End the the rule of the Monarchy and its puppet parliament!
For a constituent assembly based on the equal rights of all citizens to decide on a new form of democratic rule and ownership of Tonga's resources!
 

Re: People fighting back in Tonga - NZ Govt assisting the monarchy

Heard one of the pro democracy leaders on the radio, he was ok with NZ forces being in tonga.
 

Re: Re: People fighting back in Tonga - NZ Govt assisting the monarchy

and the person interviewed at around 7.20am on Morning Report said he doesn't want the troops in Tonga.
 

Re: People fighting back in Tonga - NZ Govt assisting the monarchy

Malo Aupito

Go hard, Pacific peoples rise up and fight back
 

Re: People fighting back in Tonga - NZ Govt assisting the monarchy

Troops are sent in to uphold the current regime. Keep the troops out, and let some sort of democratic revolution take its course.
jogrrl
 

Re: People fighting back in Tonga - NZ Govt assisting the monarchy

I see a disturbing implication in the write-up, that seems to imply that in Tonga right now, rioting is an expression of political resistance.
Of course, under the political circumstances, political resistance is the right thing to do. But, the rioting doesn't help anyone. Its just a bunch of Tonga's rednecks running around, looting and burning.
The photographs posted above mix up images of joyous protesting, along with looting, conflating protest with the unjustifiable violence.
It's not just the kings friends being looted. In one case, a kiwi businessman, Mike Jones, had his hardware shop destroyed. He believed he was targetted because he took part in a commision to investigate government corruption.
Chinese-run businesses are being targetted. Their corner stores and restaurants are being burnt to the ground, because the worst elements in tongan society now believe that they have licence to act on their worst instincts.
The main area of of town has been completly looted. These crimes will only damage the fabric of the community. They do nothing for the cause of democracy.
Is this your idea of a "Democratic Revolution"?

Do any of the Tongans who read this form care to comment?
 

Re: People fighting back in Tonga - NZ Govt assisting the monarchy

"The colonial world is a world cut in two. The dividing line, the frontiers are shown by barracks and police stations. In the colonies it is the policeman and the soldier who are the official, instituted go-betweens, the spokesmen of the settler and his rule of oppression." - Frantz Fanon, The Wretched of the Earth
 

Re: People fighting back in Tonga - NZ Govt assisting the monarchy

To the author of the above terrible write-up:

What makes you think that NZ soldiers are going to Tonga to "crush the resistance"?
Do you think that this is "Star Wars" in the pacific?
 

Re: People fighting back in Tonga - NZ Govt assisting the monarchy

What bullshit. 'Crimes', 'damage to community', 'tradition destroyed'. All bullshit.
If you want to find the real cause of crime, damage to the community and the exploiter of tradition, look no further than the royal family and its siphoning off of the wealth of the Tongan people.
Yes the ANZ military and police are going to suppress 'popular resistance'. What else? Keep the peace, public order - same things. People are burning down the property of the royal family, its lackeys and foreign companies that grow fat on their poverty. That's not a crime its called retribution.
The King calls down a curfew and bans meetings of more than 5 people to restore Tonga's 'reputation'. With whom? Foreign investors, the Royal family's cronies in crime.
And kiwi troops prop up this 'reputation'.
Between retribution and reputation I know where I stand - the firerimmed Pacific.
 

Re: Re: People fighting back in Tonga - NZ Govt assisting the monarchy

"Yes the ANZ military and police are going to suppress 'popular resistance'. What else?"

Actually, the mandate of the force is pretty limited.

So far, they have secured the airport, are protecting what is left of the center of Nukuʻalofa, and doing forensics on the bodies of the dead.

If you look at the historys of repression to political resistance, this is hardly boot-crushing-human-face stuff.

And, you didn't answer my question.
I'll restate it, to be more specific:

What evidence to you have that the NZ Army are there to crush the resistance?

Also, bear in mind that I'm not defending the misdeeds of the king.
I'm just saying that two wrongs don't make a right.
 

Re: People fighting back in Tonga - NZ Govt assisting the monarchy

responding to the person calling the rioters "a bunch of Tongan rednecks" etc...

When your country and people have been fucked over by an elite ruling class and foreigners and your peaceful protesting is ignored, what else do you do? You take it all back starting with burning their shit down so you can rebuild in the ashes once they've all run away.

The chinese were sold passports by the king who put the money into a bad investment and lost it all but now the chinese own about 72% of Tongan business in just under 10 years time. Does that seem fair to you? Does that not seem like it would "damage the fabric of the community"?

Your comment "the worst elements in tongan society now believe that they have licence to act on their worst instincts" is just plain ignorant and patronizing. Go read some books or talk to Tongans mate.
 

Re: Re: People fighting back in Tonga - NZ Govt assisting the monarchy

Well, actually, I have been talking to family in Tonga. Have you?

I've also been paying attention to matangitonga.to - a good independant news source for Tonga, as well as the reports on scoop.co.nz.

How have you been educating your opinion?

It seems as if you are saying that if someones country was exploited by an elite ruling class, then the best thing to do is burn down the local markets, supermarkets and corner dairies after stealing all their beer.
Oh yeah - and blame it all on the chinese.

Another question: how do you think that this destruction helps strengthen the Tongan community?

I'm certain that you will find very few people who live in Tonga who will believe you, should you say that rioting and looting will contribute to the future of Tonga.
 

Re: Re: Re: People fighting back in Tonga - NZ Govt assisting the monarchy

Another good source of information, I should add, is "Tonga Now":
www.tonga-now.to
 

Re: Re: People fighting back in Tonga - NZ Govt assisting the monarchy

seems like you know a lot. do me a favor would you? save that knowledge and your wisdom so you can build a falemalolo ponu for your mom and dad some day... is that clear? first you shouldnt be talkin like that about the rulers of the country, where was your freakin ancestors(loosers) when they should have fight so they can run this beloved country. or i forgot, they were busy bending over to the king and his guard... hahaha... let the hard working people keep working hard. let the lazy freakin people keep on burning down the city and steal from the stores, let the ANZ peace keepers do there job, dont mess with them cuz they gonna take your wife or girlfriends or your daughter...haha... im just kiddin, they dont want none of your gorillaz... hehehe... 'oua e kohu... do yourself something useful by going up to nuku'alofa and pick up the trash...

malo tonga,
amusia koe
 

Re: People fighting back in Tonga - NZ Govt assisting the monarchy

Keep the resistance up, Clarke & Howard are the bully boys to infest the pacific with neo-liberal bullshit.Stand up before these pricks turn the pacific into an opencast mine, and pacific islanders into slaves. Get the OZ/NZ troops & pigs out of Tonga.

Emergency regulations effective today 17 November 2006

This morning the King-in- Privy Council directed the Emergency Maintenance of Public Order Regulations for purposes of securing the public safety. These regulations empowered the Tonga Police Force and Tonga Defence Services to:

· Regulate the use of public roads or waterways by people or vessels

· Prohibit meetings or processions

· Order dispersal of an assembly of people

· Use force in the interest of public security

· Erect road barriers for the preservation of law and order

· Enforce necessary steps to prevent penetration of road barriers

· Order public curfews for people to remain indoors

· Detain individuals from entering a building/place

· Regulate the movement of people

· Detain people for the purpose of conducting a search

· Remove people who fail to comply with any order

· Stop and search suspicious persons, premises, vehicles or aircraft with or without warrant

· Arrest suspicious persons on reasonable grounds of threatening public order

· Detain any arrested persons for not more than 48 hours

· Use such force necessary for preserving public order
 

Re: People fighting back in Tonga - NZ Govt assisting the monarchy

"Mr two wrongs dont make a right"
Some wrongs are wronger
some rights are righter
praise the lord and hand me the lighter
Rimofire
 

Re: People fighting back in Tonga - NZ Govt assisting the monarchy

It’s ugly thuggering! There is no solidarity of purpose and leadership to stabilize the so-called movement. For what it appears, a group of unruly persons were bullied into causing chaos most probably by such agents as Media propaganda and the CIA. Why wasn’t a leader of the movement taking control or making a public statement? How can a democratic movement expect to rule with violent intention? The Solomons, Fijians, Tongans have all tainted the Pacific with terror!
 

Re: Re: People fighting back in Tonga - NZ Govt assisting the monarchy

Howard and Clark are the sworn American deputy sheriffs of the South Pacific .. and the current action and readiness to interfere in other peoples affairs (very American) sends a strong message to the masses ..

Any nonsense here in NZ and the Ozzies will be here like blow flies on rotten meat. There is no democracy only public manipulation by scum that take backhanders.
 

Re: People fighting back in Tonga - NZ Govt assisting the monarchy

fuck u Anonymous!....u dontknow any shit about wats happenning...so jus shut ur mother fucker up and watch while da police beat up the hell up on those who planned this shit.

no one like those fukin TEMO. so fuck u all. all you did was showing us that you are non-civilized people. fuck u 'Akilisi and ur Crew!
 

Re: Re: People fighting back in Tonga - NZ Govt assisting the monarchy

That's a helpful comment...
 

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Claims Aust, NZ stifling Tongan political reform
12:00 PM November 21

The leaders of Tonga's pro-democracy movement want the Commonwealth secretary-general to mediate peace talks in the troubled Pacific island kingdom.

They have condemned the use of Australian and New Zealand troops to bolster what they say is an unrepresentative and repressive regime.

The pro-democracy movement leaders today claimed Canberra and Wellington were now complicit in the suppression of legitimate protests and political reform in Tonga.

They say the use of heavily-armed soldiers and police is unwarranted and that they should leave if they are not going to facilitate genuine dialogue between both sides of Tongan politics.

Instead the pro-democracy movement has called on the Commonwealth secretary-general Don McKinnon to broker peace talks as soon as possible.
Source: ABC
 

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The WSWS take:

Clark’s hostility to monarchical rule is not motivated by concerns for democratic rights. The so-called pro-democracy movement is led by parliamentarians, business people, and other middle-class elements who resent the monarchy for monopolising the country’s wealth and political power, but have no fundamental differences with the regime’s right-wing economic and social agenda. These layers have won Australian and New Zealand support by promising to protect foreign interests in Tonga and implement sweeping pro-business reforms.

Clark and Australian Prime Minister Howard view the monarchy as an impediment to economic reform. While the royal family has implemented a series of free market and pro-trade measures in the past decade—leading to unprecedented social inequality and mass poverty and unemployment—as far as Australia, New Zealand, and the International Monetary Fund (IMF) are concerned, not enough has been done to open up Tonga’s markets and resources.

(Full: www.wsws.org/articles/2006/nov2006/tonga-n21.shtml)
 

Re: Re: People fighting back in Tonga - NZ Govt assisting the monarchy

Fuck you back too, Oh No! As a matter of fact, I don't want to so, Go Fuck yourself. Prevail to the People & 'Akilisi.
 

Get out of the pacific

Pigs & troops out of Tonga
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Piss Off Howard
Piss off Clarke
 

Tongan Marxist on other thread

Great analysis shines like a ray of light in the dark of the holy trinity of God, King and Country, not to mention the military.
indymedia.org.nz/newswire/display/72060/index.php
 

Re: People fighting back in Tonga - NZ Govt assisting the monarchy

Malo e lelei ki he pongipongí ni. Ko hoku hingoa ko Sisi. As you can see there is much anger from both side of the Tongan people. Some want better wages, some want to defend the King no matter what he say or do, some want to remove the King and bring in the palangi democracy.

My thoughts on the matter is that this is a Tongan problem, and we Tongans will sort it out. This has however revealed the cowardess of the King for calling upon outside troops, police and special forces to intervene thus weakening the sovereignty of my country.

Tonga has enjoyed continued sovereignty since many thousands of years ago, and to bring in the foreign troops and to look to the palangi Governments of NZ and Australia is a most grevious break in that continuity.

This therefore is an act of treason against the people of Tonga and the troops must immediately leave and the King be held accountable for this act of treason.
 

Re: Re: People fighting back in Tonga - NZ Govt assisting the monarchy

Malo Aupito Sisi

an astute analysis indeed. Its up to Tongans to define and shape their society based on Tongan Lands and culture for the benefit of all your peoples.
NZ & OZ troops and pigs out of Tonga.
 

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you must be a fool, or down right ignorant or just a WANNABE REPORTER, who has no idea about whats going on in Tonga to claim that Tonga is an oppressed country. Tonga has been a free country until these thugs destroyed it. get your facts straight.... and also, for those terrorist who destroyed Nuku'alofa, they sure as hell deserve what comes their way and you dare to challenge our Government for something that they didn't do. get your facts straigth!
 

Re: People fighting back in Tonga - NZ Govt assisting the monarchy

Dig deeper. Democracy is on the cards. We all want democracy but the pro demolition movement want to impose their model on all. Mike Jones whose businesses were looted and destroyed was on the government customs taskforce charged with cleaning up corruption in customs including allegations of corrpution against peoples rep 'Uliti Uata (father of Tu'i Uata). Tu'i Uata and another leader of the pro demolition movement 'Ofa Simiki are in cohots in more ways then one and had vested interests in removing some of the business competition - containers of truth they are.
Sangster Saulala another pro demolition movement leader and manager of the tv station OBN uses Tokaikolo church funds to run the station and his political agenda. It helps that his father is the President of the church.
Tell me of a politician who owns a newspaper and uses it to further his political agenda?... former Italian Prime Minister Burlusconi and 'Akilisi Pohiva.
They have become exactly what they were against.
 

Re: Re: People fighting back in Tonga - NZ Govt assisting the monarchy

Should also add that one of the pro demolition leaders was the former minister of police responsible for the influx of chinese immigrants and their naturalisation, the passport scheme, the attempt to muzzle freedom of speech in the Newspaper Act 2003.

He also dismissed his now brother-in-arms Semisi Tapueluelu and staunch pro democracy strongman and his son Mateni Tapueluelu from the prison service for allegations of corruption and political reasons. Mateni is now Tonga correspondent for radio nz international. SEmisi is alleged to have mismanaged a container of foodstuffs in 2004 belonging to the people of Houma village. To this day they have not seen a single cent from the container of crops sold by Semisi.
 

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Kia ora,

I'm interested in this story about the Mangere Church using funds for other political motivations. I have recently heard about the Deacons who had to pay the church $7,000 each to become a deacon and other stories too about it's leader.

Mihi
 

Re: Re: Re: People fighting back in Tonga - NZ Govt assisting the monarchy

mihi...ke mihi ta'e??
 

Re: People fighting back in Tonga - NZ Govt assisting the monarchy

Who the leaders are of the parliamentary push for democracy is not as important as the thoughts and beliefs of the people in the movement. it is the people who will outlast the leaders of the moment. don't trust leaders. it is voluntary association of common people in co-operation with each other which will result in social change. leaders only stand in the way, at one point of the struggle or another.
 

Re: People fighting back in Tonga - NZ Govt assisting the monarchy

"These troops are serving the interests of the feudal class in Tonga, while crushing people's desire for change."

Blah-Blah's like this are outdated. What about the guns in your house Val?
 

Re: People fighting back in Tonga - NZ Govt assisting the monarchy

dats tight that those people that are even poly are supporting us and knowing that not only other people are in danger and we are the best u know!!!!!!!!i love samoans
 

Re: Re: People fighting back in Tonga - NZ Govt assisting the monarchy

you're a fuckstick
 

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