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Protest Aginst NZ/AUS Troops in Tonga
About 20 members of Peace Action Wellington and others took part in a hastily organised protest outside the Ministry of Defence against the recent NZ/Australian incursion into Tonga, aimed at propping up the monarchy.
Victory to the rioters!
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If the Tongan monarchy want to use violence then they cant complain when violence is used to overthrow them. Mr G
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The Taumopeau business got burned down, which has nothing to do with your false claim that the King stole from others.
I understand the need for change and we all make mistakes, but while there is Tongan blood in my veins , the King of Tonga is my king.
I don't have to be a Pro-Monarchist to be a loyal human-being and change may need to come but not at all cost.
I pray the good lord will heal & help you sir.
'Ofa atu
Meli
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"The people involved should be round up and shot really. We have the death penalty here in Tonga," she told TV One last night.
this is off the NZ Herald,
only a criminal would come out with such thought ay, using violent.
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EXECUTE THE RIOTERS BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE.
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Remember that not one of us are without sin and we all answer to one maker. And when depressing thoughts seem to get you down
Put a smile on your face and thank God you're alive and still around . Today before you think of saying an unkind word
Think of someone who can't speak
this is just a thought for us to be thankful for what we have.
mou ai e kataki ke lahi
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ofa atu,
Malia Lolohea Fleming (Queen Salote's sister Fakatoumafi's grandaughter)
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Adios Amigo. :)
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Mou nofo a 'o kai ho mou tuhu ke 'osi.
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The rioters burn property belonging to other innocent people and result in the lost of innocent lives. The rioters have nothing to do with politic, it has everything to do with racisim, business competition, crapping power.
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Does this mean you white folks don't want to help
black/brown Tongan?
Meli
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The troops in Tonga for peace but Tongan already peace when they get what they wanted to do.It ok for the troops to be in Tonga because not everyone are the same.Some lawless people are out there.I don't know what happen to our army and police.We need justice in this apartment.I don't know what to do but this is a call for all the churchs leader to preach the good news to the people and not politics(kosi tau).TO all the leaders don't be greedy and selfish.Remeber our motto: GOD AND TONGA ARE OUR INHERITANCE. but now ALL OUR LEADERS AND TONGA ARE OUR INHERITANCE. Remember 1 King of Tonga.Siaosi Tupou 1 says.My people and my lands are in God's hand.It ok to stand for your right but you can't know the book by the cover.You needs to read the whole book and understand the whole story.Amen!
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the Cashman family VA, USA
NZ/AUS Troops going to Tonga
Peace of Christ be upon you.
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How can violence and chaos reflect and promote that a democratic society can successfully reign. Royals and Nobles don't fist fight during political negotiations and yet the Tongatapu's people's number 1 rep has.
The democrats' platform for change is not eligible and does not justify any capability to rule - at least those with a very sensible mind could never understand why they think they should be in power.
One thing I have seen for sure that democrats do well over the years; they are meticulous critics against government; they loathe royal positions and want to be the royals instead; their primary hobby is criticism instead of peaceful negotiation; they campaign prior to election that they are the 'it' for a people's representative - however they don't care for individuals on a personal level.
When have the people's representatives taken time out of their busy schedules' to help a commoner in need? Their ideals for change have only excited the status quo towards a mere theory only.
EXCILE THE DEMOCRATS!
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Are the people's representatives' going from home to home (the people that believed and voted them to parliament with good faith) to check if they are ok?
Were the peoples' representatives able to negotiate with the NZ and the Australian government to make sacrifices and assist Tonga in this dire time? Or did the Tonga goverment had to make this choice to help clean up the democrats' mindless actions?
I am sure that families of military personnel whom are being deployed to Tonga to assist with this mess are worried. They have all reasons in the world to be!
When has the government ever come out and showed heart by wreaking destruction to hurt so many innocent people - in order to show what they stand for?
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HA'OLA
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U hath to think!!!!! But u don't know!! okay!!
U just go out to protest, go home, and try to understand why!!?? But maybe your mind is empty that's why!!
I think for Tongans people, and I understand them!!!
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Tongans responsible for the riots and participating in it; as well as sympathizers to that movement owe all the NZ and Australian families who are risking their lives on these Tongans' mindless actions?
Tell me; if you burnt down a property not belonging to yourself; you'd still think you are sane that someone else be clean up the mess on your behalf? Is this the Tongan that you are?
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Why did the international court deem Saddam's punishment by 'hanging' let alone giving the chance to 'pend'.
Should his outcome be yours too?
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Your ITCH against government (and I reference what someone else mentioned here) IS A PITY CASE. You think you are smarter than government...then show us what shit you got?
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He may benefit your thinking but enough though.
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'akilisi - face lift gone bad
'uli uata - abandoned crab noone wants to eat
cleve edwards - hippotomus gone wild
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People like you show your unlimited support for the burning down of the city; the killing of 8 innocent people; the sacrifice of others. Only 1 word in the English vocabulary known to man describe your being.....and that is 'lawlessness'.
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How many peoples' representatives have a PhD; history of successful leadership; evidence of business acumen; keen insight for political change while upholding peace?
The US and many other hardworking countries are currently in Iraq because Saddam Hussein was not able to make political changes peacefully and non-violently.
This is Tonga's current situation. Other wonderful countries have to share their peacekeeping resources because the democrats are incapable of bringing about needed change whilst protecting the commoners.
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Tonga was not born with Democracy; and even when people really want to be a royal or want a spot/say in government; it basically boils down to - there is no opportunity there for people like you. You all love to babble all the time without convincing government and allowing them to do a background check for a PM.
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'Aikilisi Pohiva of Tonga (plus his political aides) is the Saddam and Hitler of the South Pacific - selfishly wanting power using VIOLENCE.
Demos of Tonga should be hanged including supporters like you. Any court hearing your case would feel guilt throughout life should they spare you.
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Everyone made their choices and so did rioters, looters, and arsonists! No one else can be responsible for their crime but them. Them and the peoples' reps that have sparked this necessity to bring about a change that could never be birthed in a land that is only meant for kings, and yes, kings that know how to lead and who truly love its people. Tonga is not meant to be led by commoners and will never be.
Which country in the world operates leadership by reporting to people what they meet on daily? Rioters do not deserve to be reported to and listened to at all. The LAW hereon will respond to their needs as they have been verbally threatening and now physically abusive to the Tongan infrastructure.
Who will account for peoples' susceptibility to violence moving forward? The neibouring countries will and so as our local government - these are the people that truly care.
Tongans that cannot bear living under traditional leadership have the option of moving out to a land with laws and leadership they can coincide with. No one has the right to demand change in Tonga.
Shipping out is the better option because as now we see, the only other option is to ship to the Tolitoli Jail. This is the best that democrats' can attain in life - enhance an environment that only the LOW in life go to.
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You have to ask yourself why there was a situation that allowed the rioters to behave as they did. This is not saying what they did was right. It was illegal and senseless, but the king and govt are not free of blame.
The govt did not need to light the match for the arsonists. Instead, the govt were the falekoloa owners who sold them the box of matches. The pro-democracy leaders were the ones who told the arsonists to go to the falekoloa to buy the matches. If the shopowner had a loaf of bread on offer, the arsonist would have a choice between bread or matches. On this occassion, there was no bread, just big fat match boxes, given to someone who the shopowner knows will go straight out and light the town up.
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Rioters and pro-demos agitated each other and ultimately planned out an attack on the government that will only make things worse for everyone as a whole.
Tonga has spoiled you bad because something that you and democrats do best is THREATEN THE GOVERNMENT OF TONGA! No country tolerates that and you are all going to be responsible as no one will hear out your poor reasoning and justification. Can Akilisi Pohiva, Clive Edwards, and Uliti Uata (all all people's reps) save the ass of the jailed rioters now. Will they supplement your loss now?
Does Finau Tutone and all pro-looters have the income to cater for the loss?
Do you yourself have the $$$$$$ for Tonga right now that you can assist to mend things without having people wait.
Demanding people like you are always for sure people in NEED!
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If the current Political System continues, there won't be any peace in our small island paradise in the future.
Don't worry there's order in Tonga already. We welcome the Aust/NZ troops to help pick up the rubbish and clean our town.
The majority of the People now are happy that they've been promised the Political Reform to take place in the next General Election in 2008. They have also submitted a petition to the King in the weekend to fire the PM & Ministers as they have been the cause of the problems here in Tonga, by not advising the King properly in order to keep the peace.
But we know our King anyway, being a stubborn spoiled brat, he wants everything and the all the little money our poor country has. The PM & Ministers should resign if they cannot do their job properly. Let the King do his own dirty work and the People will soon have him following his two Indian Business Friends to NZ.
Keep up the good work railing for Peace throughout the Pacific.
With much appreciation, A Member from the People's National Committee for Political Reform (chaired by 'Akilisi Pohiva, the People's No.1 MP) from the Heart of Nuku'alofa.
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May you members of the People's National Committee for Political Reform only get to see the rubble of the DEMOCRATIC ARSONITISTS SOCIETY that you have worked hard for years to build.
In regards to the King's Indian assistants! Knowing how democrats love the $$$$$$$$....hear this out readers!!!! If they were presented the flashing salaries as the Indian guys; these demos would have worked for the King too and yeah! fled Tonga by now to NZ. Pay these guys and gals the millions - they'd immediately resign from this hypocritical DEMOS for GEMS society too.
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Don't you know that the PM & Ministers will get the same salary rise as the MPs? In addition to their Ministerial salaries which is proposed at $70,000 - $90,000? For doing what, nothing!! Most of the work is done by Level 1 - Level 14 of the Government Public Servants!! All they do is listen to what the fat brown blood sucker of a slug tells them to do and no wonder the People start burning down our city. Ko e ha'u ia 'ae hake 'ae kataki ki he ngata'angaa
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What have the People's MPs ensured and guaranteed with their brainwashed supporters that they will be around to prevent jailing for them?
Since when should work be run from the bottom up? We too hard workers have to have bosses though perfect or not - but that's what makes an org operable? This is the way it is.
The Tongan traditional government have had so much patience with limited thinking individuals like you.
And as mentioned by someone else earlier in this forum and I believe now that it is true - THAT ALL YOU DEMOS THINK OF IS $$$$$$$$$$$$$$. That is all that matters.
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Your second assumption is that because corporate CEOs are paid a salary many hundreds of times greater than the wages of the people actually doing the work in their company in some countries that this is right and necessary. Arguably it is neither. There is plenty of evidence that workers can manage their own workplaces without a separate class of management at all, let alone one taking the lion's share of what their work earns. For examples look at all the worker-run co-operatives whose goods are sold through Trade Aid for example Look at the factory workers who took over their factories during Argentina's financial crisis (see the film The Take). Look at the community garden co-operatives in Cuba that supply much of the food for their neighbourhoods (see the film The Power of Community).
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People did not develop and pay for the electric corp. to run. They were given jobs to help run it, and it was run to the ground and government had to save it.
Maybe in your country (sounds similar to Demos in Tonga)... why have so much want to paid the equivalent of a CEOs salary? This is UNTAMED THINKING, no doubt! This is also sad that people like you have not nor could not come to grips with reality.
Why should anyone expect to walk into a company and expect to get paid similar with their boss? You are there to work but prior to you working you agree to the salary you will be given.
And yes, CEOs have a drastic salary level because it is deserved and workers can't contest that. A CEO responsibility is not cheap like weaving.
What people here like you look for is to 'take a shit' and still get paid for it.
South America and Cuba are fine but I recommend that you get advanced academic training. It will make a difference.
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Put it this way, if you were a princess! You'd do that too mah friend. Matter of fuct is! You no princess!
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Go ask your own father to give you an orbital slot so you yourself can make millions from that. Also, go start up your own nation and run its electrical operations so you can get some self satisfaction.
Why don't you try travelling the world and post countries and leaders that share their earnings with everyone as an obligation? It is not wrong for royals and nobles to work, run a business as they see fit.
Tongans still go the Vaiola Hospital and still get medical treatment endlessly for free. Safety has been a guarantee in Tonga until lately. Security control was always great to have around but not anymore. Education is abundant in Tonga, funded and run by government so all can be blessed etc.
There are many benefits to Tonga from the traditional system. Unfortunately, democratic politicians have struck the very source of existence of all Tongan people, because they only want political fame and money for themselves. They need to open their eyes unless still shut - to the destruction they have brought about to the kingdom.
The problems these days is that democrats in Tonga believe that they are smart enough to run a country. This is all speech and it is all pretense.
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It is ok for princesses to be who they are; Princess Pilolevu has not harmed anyone nor taken a life. She is a strong contributor to peace and the development of Tonga as a whole.
Many people have criticized poor Princess Pilolevu for who she is when God has chosen her to be one on this earth.
Why complain here regarding a princess that you don't even know personally?
Go ahead and write/phone call the Democratic Party to propose legislation for 2007 for non-princesses to be granted the title of a princess. This is a harmless and more responsible route of getting this accomplished.
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Kapau pe temou takitaha foki ki homou ngaahi 'api 'o talitali mei ai 'e lelei pe me'a hono kotoa. Ka koe toe kapa mai ko'ena moe fiepoto lahi ke fakalele hotau pule'anga 'aki homo ngaahi 'atamai vaivai fau kuo to ai 'a Tonga ki he kovi.
Koe ha kuo toe fetukuaki holo ai pe koe fo'ui 'o hai ne kamata ai e palopalema.
Koe launga he totongi pila mamafa ka na'e fakaa'u ai e 'uhila ki he ngaahi 'otu motu ke si'i lave monu ai hotau kakai. 'Oku mau totongi pila mamafa pe mo kimautolu pea 'oku 'ikai hao ha taha ai.
Koe kulupu temokalati 'oku nau motolo mai pe 'a e maumau moe siokita ki he'etau fanau.
Tuku a e 'ulupala kae o langa 'a Nuku'alofa he 'oku 'ikai keu fie fanongo atu ki ho'o fakapoto he 'oku fu'u namu ta'e 'aupito.
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why would anyone else be considered as responsible, ay?
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the sun did shine on Tonga's PM because he is acadmically bright (a PhD) and physically has bright skin complexion.
you did not want the sun to shine on anyone else because when it shone on you IT DID FRY YOU and YOUR BRAINS TOO!
we know where to put our fingers and down there in the butt is never considered...but if you think we should stick it in our butts...WE WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT TOO BUT TAKE IT OUT WITH CONTENTS WITHIN AND PAINT YOUR FACE AND TONGUE!!!Arent' we cool?
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OUA E KOHU HAHA.
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okey! i no judge tham then i will jus a wonder if they have carpentry skills to rebuild the burned down houses in the city...good fing is Tupou Five is aaah! nice man he won't ask them to do that.
i really fink though they aah need to strip naked in city to show people they are sorry and have everyone whip them buttocks. this is bettah than judging like you say.
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ANGA 'AE PAKUPAKU AFI'I E FAKATUPU MOVEUVEU HOLO HENI. 'ALU A 'O FUCKI HO'O MOU TOPAI KEMOU KAI HE 'OKU MOU 'ASI FIEKAI MAI 'AUPITO. FANGA MASIVA 'ELO'ELO MO'UI.
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Tuku e kakai ia kenau lea tau'ataina; ke fakataputapui 'e koe heni; ko hai na'a ne faka'ai'ai e kakai ke nau o 'o kalusefai 'enau mo'ui ke fai 'aki e fakaha poini 'a e kau fakafofonga kakai 'i falealealea?
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Ka 'oku 'i ai hao matatohi pehe pea ke sio hifo ka koe teke anga faka'apa'apa ki he Tonga kotoa, ne tonu pe keke fepotalanoa'ki koe mo Tupou 5 kene fakakaukau'u ha'o ngaue tatau mo Feleti.
Koe lea kia Maliana, koe kakai talavou pehe ia 'oku 'ikai toe 'eke'i. Taha ko ha'o 'asi mai he 'ikai toe fiema'u ke fai ha sio tu'o ua atu ka koe.
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BUT THEN AGAIN I COULD BE WRONG, OR MAYBE RIGHT
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Sorry that life has not been good to you, I understand why you constipate about the royal family and government. MAYBE SOMEONE TOOK A SHIT ON THE FACE AND HE/SHE STILL WANT MORE.
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hay everybody has a good life, maybe yours is full of shit get a life.
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Sorry that life has not been good to you, I understand why you constipate about the royal family and government. MAYBE SOMEONE TOOK A SHIT ON THE FACE AND HE/SHE STILL WANT MORE.
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'Osi laulau houa e tutu te'eki ke 'asi hake ha taha 'o e kau fakafofonga kakai ki kolo ke fai ha me'a ke malu'i e kakai.
Koe lea ka Tupou 5 'oku anga faka'apa'apa ia. Ne nofo pe e tama ia ka koe hou'eiki fafine pe ne totolo atu he po'uli 'o kole. 'Io 'oku tuha ia ke tu'i - HE 'OKU 'IKAI NOFO IA 'O FAKAKAUKAU FAKASETANE HANGE KO KOE.
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Ko e 'uhinga 'oku 'ikai 'asi ai 'e kau fakafofongaa he kuo tapui kinautolu 'ehe Tu'i ke nau ngaue'aki 'ae TV & Radio. For your info.
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Nofo 'a Tupou 5 ia 'o fakakaukau'i e lelei moe nonga e fonua fakalukufua mo 'etau ngaahi fanau kae nofo e kau Temo ia 'o toi falemalolo mo 'ikai lingi ha kapavai ki he vela na'e hoko?
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Ka 'oku 'ikai teke lava koe 'o lau e ngaahi pousi, pea ke kataki pe koe 'o me'a he tafa'aki.
Ko e kakai mo'oni 'eni ia 'oku nau 'ofa ki Tonga 'oku nau fakaha ma'a honau loto 'onautalu. OKU 'IKAI KO HA ANGA TA'EFAKA'APA'APA IA!
'AI ho'o lau 'a koe ki he kau kapekape koe na'e fai 'i loto pangai si'i. Tala katoa ki he kau lotolahi koia pe ko fe feitu'u ke 'uluaki fakahu'u ki ai 'enau kapekape!
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'oku 'ilo kapekape kotoa pe kau ai 'etau ngaahi fa'e'e. mo koe pe na'a ke 'ilo kapekape mei ho'o fu'u fa'e moe tangai..ue moe tamai.
tuku e malualoi ke fai 'ehe kau temo 'i Tonga, ha'u koe mo ho'o fakakalisitiane lolotonga 'emau hoha'a ki Tonga.
ta'efa'elu 'alu 'o mohe moe fakamole sio
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Ha'u kitautolu 'o fakaha hotau loto kae toe fakalele nanamu fievaleloi mai ia mo 'ene matu'a he tafa'aki.
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Re: Re: Re: Protest Aginst NZ/AUS Troops in Tonga
Koe lea mai ki he sino ia ko 'eni 'oku ou pa mata mo malaki 'e au koe ke tete'e mai ho fu'u fo'i mata'i lulu.
Kapau 'oku te'eki keke sio ha sio'ata mo'oni pea ke fetu'utaki mai kau seni atu e sio'ata koe he'ikai tene lohiaki'i koe. KO HO MATA 'OU 'OKU MATAMATALELEI ANGE E LOHOFUA IA A E HOOSI!
Na'e 'ikai mei talaatu ka koe keke 'ilo'i ka ko ho'o toe futefute mai ko 'ena pea talaatu ai leva.
Pea ka swimsuit mani'i e tungaiku ia ko 'eni 'oku kei MA'A LAHI ANGE IA HO FU'U MATA'I TA'E....'E TOE LELE MAI HO'O TAMAI 'AU MO HO FANGA UNCLE MO E FANGA TUONGA'ANE MATA'I TEVOLO 'O TOE FA AI!.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Protest Aginst NZ/AUS Troops in Tonga
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Protest Aginst NZ/AUS Troops in Tonga
kapau na'ake ngaue'aki 'a e fale malolo ponu pea 'oua mu'a 'e fai ha ma he 'oku mahino pe ne si'i 'i ai e ni'ihi ne masiva pea kamata kaukau pe moe ponu hange pe koe fakalea mai ko'ena 'i 'olunga.
sai e kau tui swimsuit ia ne nau tupu pe mo ia pea mahino pe ia ko e kakai kili ma'a 'aupito 'e toe hinga ai e tamai moe tuonga'ane ia....ka ko ko'ena ku 'ita ki ai...tui pe koe swimsuti ho 'ulu pea fai 'aki ia...tuku e fifisi ia ko 'ena he 'oku ke 'ita pe koe ia he tupu hake moe kasele ponu...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Protest Aginst NZ/AUS Troops in Tonga
kapau na'ake ngaue'aki 'a e fale malolo ponu pea 'oua mu'a 'e fai ha ma he 'oku mahino pe ne si'i 'i ai e ni'ihi ne masiva pea kamata kaukau pe moe ponu hange pe koe fakalea mai ko'ena 'i 'olunga.
sai e kau tui swimsuit ia ne nau tupu pe mo ia pea mahino pe ia ko e kakai kili ma'a 'aupito 'e toe hinga ai e tamai moe tuonga'ane ia....ka ko ko'ena ku 'ita ki ai...tui pe koe swimsuti ho 'ulu pea fai 'aki ia...tuku e fifisi ia ko 'ena he 'oku ke 'ita pe koe ia he tupu hake moe kasele ponu...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Protest Aginst NZ/AUS Troops in Tonga