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Protest Aginst NZ/AUS Troops in Tonga

About 20 members of Peace Action Wellington and others took part in a hastily organised protest outside the Ministry of Defence against the recent NZ/Australian incursion into Tonga, aimed at propping up the monarchy.

Victory to the rioters!
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Nice chalking

Nice chalking...
 

Re: Nice chalking

kuo hela mai kau sotia nz/aus ka kuo nonga ae kakai ia
 

Re: Nice chalking

koe mea nae hoko ihe tuapulelu ne hange tau fk lele moa tau manatu he sio he mea nae hoko he twin taua
 

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kuo hela mai kau sotia nz/aus ka kuo nonga ae kakai ia
 

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There is ugly thuggery behaviour in pro democratic protest movements that have nothing to do with Peace. It is the same as glorifying violence and justifying crime, it is not cool at all. If people want to use violence, then they should not complain if violence is used against them. The innocent civilians and property must be protection, especially in a poor country. Violence must not rule social organization.
 

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When the country is ruled by an inbred parasite piece of shit like the King of Tonga, the people have a right to rebel. And if they want to burn the property he stole off them, good on them.
If the Tongan monarchy want to use violence then they cant complain when violence is used to overthrow them. Mr G
 

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I don't think you know much about what's heppening in Tonga Mr g.
The Taumopeau business got burned down, which has nothing to do with your false claim that the King stole from others.
I understand the need for change and we all make mistakes, but while there is Tongan blood in my veins , the King of Tonga is my king.
I don't have to be a Pro-Monarchist to be a loyal human-being and change may need to come but not at all cost.
I pray the good lord will heal & help you sir.
'Ofa atu
Meli
 

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ka oku ilo mai hee tui tonga koe?kuo osi e taimi tui he oku ikai kenau hoko ko ha example lelei ki he kakai.kapau oku nau taki e lele (he tuafale ) pea ave ange honau tuha.sai hono tali pehei,mahalo naa nau langa ai ha tonga oku lelei ange.
 

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Ko koe ko'ena 'oku lea pehe ki he Fale 'oe Tu'i,mahalo na'e 'ikai ke akonaki'i koe ho'o tamai mo ho'o fa'e keke 'ilo'i ae me'a keke lea ai.Koe Tu'i na'e 'omai pe ia mei langi ke nau Tu'i he kapau na'e malohi ho'o kui kene tau'i a tonga kou tui na'e fk'ofa ae kakai ho'o mou siokita kae malo he koe fokotu'utu'u 'ae tama poto kuone 'omai pe ha Ha'a Tu'i lelei kenau taki mai 'a Tonga he Ta'u lahi.Me'a pango he koe lea ae ngutu'i tu'a tae 'ilo'i ha me'a pea kapau 'e 'ilo'i 'e moutolu ko'ena 'oku muimui ke kau demo 'enau hidden agenda temou toki 'ilo'i 'ae fkpotopoto ange pe 'ae fokotu'utu'u 'ae 'Otua.Koe ta'u 'eni e fiha 'ae fili he'e kakai a Akilisi moe kau demo kihe falealea?Pea mou talamai pe koe ha ha'ane me'a kuo fai ma'a moutolu.Mole pe taimi hono 'ai 'ae me'a maumau taimi kae 'ikai ke 'ai 'ae me'a na'e 'ave ai kinautolu kihe FALEALEA "THE PEOPLE""IKAI temou 'ilo'i hono use kimoutolu he'e kakai ko'ena ke ma'u e me'a 'oku nau feinga kiai ma'anautolu pe.'Oku i'kai ke fiema'u ia ke 'ilo'i kita he'e Tu'i,'oku tau fk'apa'apa pe he koe me'a na'e fkmakehe'i ai kitautolu mei mamani ko 'etau fk'apa'apa mo 'etau 'ofa.kai kehe kuo malohi ae tevolo hono fkloto'i ae fa'ahinga kakai pehena kenau fai 'ae 'ulungaanga ta'e fklotu ko'ena.
 

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King Tupou IV's cousin Kololiana Naufahu, the first member of the Tongan royal family to speak publicly since the rioting, yesterday called for convicted rioters to be executed.

"The people involved should be round up and shot really. We have the death penalty here in Tonga," she told TV One last night.

this is off the NZ Herald,
only a criminal would come out with such thought ay, using violent.
 

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Suppress violence with violence is the effective way to go. Rioters potentially may take more innocent lives. They did attempt to burn down other individuals' homes working for the government while the families and children were there.

EXECUTE THE RIOTERS BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE.
 

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it's stupid people like you that makes matters worse, you mightest well go hang yourself since your so violent too. forgive and forget fob.
 

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Execute yourself! Sounds like you need that inner peace.
 

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But before you think of pointing the finger or condemning another
Remember that not one of us are without sin and we all answer to one maker. And when depressing thoughts seem to get you down
Put a smile on your face and thank God you're alive and still around . Today before you think of saying an unkind word
Think of someone who can't speak

this is just a thought for us to be thankful for what we have.

mou ai e kataki ke lahi
 

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There should not be any forgive and forget on these matters, as these people have hurt Indian/tongan business, tongan business and tongan people and kill eight people and so the blood of these people of theirs is in their hand. Anyway non of you live in Tonga so you should not speak and non of the royal family bother reading these pages they have better things to do
 

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Correction re relationship of Kololiana Naufahu. She is not the king's cousin she is the Queen of Tonga's neice not related to the King. I wouldn't take anything Gloriana says seriously.

ofa atu,
Malia Lolohea Fleming (Queen Salote's sister Fakatoumafi's grandaughter)
 

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I support you my friend. God bless Mexico.

Adios Amigo. :)
 

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90% of the property damaged belonged to people who worked hard to be where they are. What did our King steal from you? Who ever lied to you that the people have a right to rebel? That was no rebellion, that was pure looting, stealing, and vandalism. You see, the prodemoracy group have brainwashed these idiots and anyone else who believe in their lies that life will be better with them at the helm. Not likely, Tonga will still be a third world country, and life will be better with hard work and not ambitious politicians running themselves off the mouth. It is idiots like you, who put your two-cents in that make matters worse.
 

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I am glad because I'M sure you are not Tongan, and very sad if YOU ARE!!, lele oma ki ho'o fa'e ke toe teach your little sorry self who, what, where you talk like this. Yes find your mama, your sister or brother or fa'etangata and lea pehe ki ai in the boundries of your house if you have a 'api, IT IS A FACT THAT 'TRASH TALK TRASH' . The King of Tonga had travelled the world and ma'imoa feinga for Tonga, 'i he LOTU, AKO, FAITO'O, YOU NAME IT. HE HAS DONE THEM ALL.
 

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ka koe paanga a hai oku lele holo aki hee fuu tui ?ikai kuo nau takitaha langa ene fanau o nau taki fiha he fale mo enau fanau moe fangamokopuna kae kei nofo lai pepa pe kakai oku nau ngaue ke fai aki ene lele takai holo?Is that okay?nice king eh
 

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ikai teu sii lave'i 'e au pe koe ha 'oku ke velia ai ki he Tama Tu'i mo hono fale... ko e ha hano maumau ka sii taki taha e Tu'i mo hono fale he 'api? koe ha 'oku ke si'i hanu pehe ai? 'oku ke si'i fiema'u ha fale? if you want one teu lava 'eau 'o langa atu ha'o fale, i got money that i work for. but hell no, i won't build you a fale... maybe a fale tu'utaha(falemalolo ponu)... lol...tuku hifo a foki e tu'i ke kii matu'u hifo kae tuku a hono komo'i. mhalo pe oku fe'unga ange keke mou sio ki he kau minisita... okay foi mei... talamai pe teke fiema'u ke langa atu ha'o fale, kau langa atu ha fale malolo keke si'i mahae mai 'o to ai... 'oua e kohu ia koe fk kata pe ia, any way, take care pea kou ofa atu
 

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'Oku ha'ele holo pe 'aki e pa'anga 'ene 'Eiki, na'e to kakava ke tau'ataina 'a Tonga. Koe fe e tamai 'a e kau nofo fale la'i pepa, 'oku kau ai ho'o tamai? mou tu'u 'o lele, 'io, lele, ko koe ia 'oku lele, ki 'uta 'o to ha fu'u manioke ke langa'aki hao fale. Na'e 'osi to manioke e ko ia 'oku nau nofo fale ai.
 

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Kataki pe he 'ohonoa kau ki'i lave atu pe kihe me'a 'oku mou felave'i mia, 'oku mo'oni 'ae lau. Tuku ai pe, pe 'oku ha'ele holo 'ae Tama Tu'i 'aki 'ae pa'anga 'ae fonua, na'e talu 'ae tupu 'ae fonua moe fanga kui moe fai 'ae ngaue tatau pe na'e 'ikai ha moveuveu ia 'ihe fonua, he na'a nau fk-'apa'apa ki ho nau Hou'eiki pea nonga ai pe 'ae fonua, kae taluga moe fie ha 'ae kau fk-fofonga falealea 'o Tongatapu ke nau ta'aki mai 'ae kovi 'ae hou'eiki ke mou fanongo ki ai he koe moui ia 'ae tonga 'oku mau 'enau fiefie 'ihe fanongo ki he fai kovi ha'ataha, koe me'a ia na'e manakoa ai 'ae nusipepa koe HIA MOE LAO pe koe LAO MO HIA koe 'uhi koe fie fanongo 'ae kakai ki kovi, kae 'ikai ke fienga ke ma'u loto ha fo'i folofola ki malanga fk-'osita'u 'oku ofi mai. Ko 'ena kuo mou sio kihe me'a kuo hoko ku toe tamatei pe 'ehe tonga 'ae tonga tupu pe me ihe fanongo kia 'Akilisi moe kau fei mau ongoongo 'o tongatapu. 'Oku nau hao pe koe 'ikai ke mate ha taha 'oku ma kainga, ka 'oku ou atu 'ae ki'i fk-tokanga ko 'eni, pea 'oku ou fk-amu ke a'u atu kihe kau tangata ko ia,('Akilisi mo hono kau muimui)ka mou ka vale 'o toe foua mai 'ae feitu'u mulini ko ho'o mou kai ia ho'o mou totongi, pea mau toki alu ai pe 'o ngaue popula, 'oku 'ikai ke mou 'ilo'i pe mau 'alu puno holo 'ihe feitu'umulini koe 'uhi koe to'onga 'oku mou fai 'i ho tau ki'i fonua masiva, sai pe he kuo mei to mai 'ae honge pea mou sio ki ai 'ae kakai ko 'ena na'e fanongo ki kau fie ha, mou 'o a 'o kaihaha'a holo, he koe me'a ia na'e feinga ki ai 'ae kau tangata ke toe tamate'i pe 'ehe tonga 'ae tonga. Pea 'oku ou fk-'amu ke 'oua 'e toe fai atu ha tokoni mei mulini ka mou nofo pe 'o langoa 'i tonga moe kai pe ho mou tuhu. Manatu'i 'oua 'e toe foua mai 'ae feitu'u muli(kau fk-fofonga falealelea 'o tongatapu) he koe fahi ia ho mou fo'i mata.

Mou nofo a 'o kai ho mou tuhu ke 'osi.
 

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Me'a pango pe koe si'i fkpo'uli 'ae kakai pea nau si'i muimui noa ai pe he kau DEMO.Kainga koe si'i ha'ele holo 'ae Tama Tu'i 'i mamani koe 'uhi ko kitautolu.Koe ngaahi me'a 'eni ke mou ki'i fkkaukau kiai.(1)'Ihe ha'a Tu'i kotoa na'e 'afio'i he'e 'Otua koe hako 'o Tupou I 'e 'ofa he kakai pea na'ane tuku kene malohi pea koe ha leva na'e hoko na'ane tuku 'ae fonua ki langi.(2)Na'e ha'ele 'ae Ta'ahine kuini ki pilitania 'one fk'ilonga'i ai 'a Tonga 'ihe ene fkha 'ene fk'apa'apa kihe kuini 'o pilitania 'ae 'ikai tene loto ke 'ai ae fale 'oe saliote he to 'ae 'uha.(3)Koe taimi na'e minisita ako ai 'a Tungi (tupou IV)Na'e loto ke Fokotu'u ha 'apiako ke teuteu'i ai 'ae tonga ke 'alu ki muli 'o ako,na'e talaange he'e tokolahi ke 'oua he'e angatu'u 'ae tu'a kiai kana'e 'ofa pe ia ki hono kakai ke nau ma'u ha fainga maile ke ma'u ha mo'ui 'oku lelei ange.Na'ane kumi 'ae misini faifaiva 'aki ene pa'ang pe 'a'ana 'o fai faiva takai holo 'o ma'u 'ae siniti 'o kamata aki 'ae TONGA HIGH SCHOOL.(4)nA'e paasi he'e falealea ke to'o 'ae ngaahi 'api 'pe kakai kou nofo muli fuoloa na'e 'oatu kiai na'e 'ikai tene tali,na'ane pehe neong pe koe ha ha fuoloa ha nofo ha'a tonga 'i ha feitu'u he'ikai lava ke to'o 'ae toto'i tonga mei ai.Sai mou talamai 'oke pehe ha Tu'i 'oku ta'e 'ofa pe koha Tu'i 'oku feinga pe ma'ana.IKAI,ka koe kakai ko'ena 'oku mou muimui kiai konautolu ia oku nau feinga pe ma'anautolu.Koe Tu'i na'e tomu'a fknofo pe ia mei LANGI PEA KO HONO TUFAKANGA NAE MEI HE 'OTUA.(KAPAU 'OKU MOU TUI 'OTUA)He is a nice King we nee to give him a chance to do his duty as a King.
 

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hey little bitch shut the fuck up you sorry ass nigga. what you mean you are sure im not tongan bitch im the fucking real tongan nigga you shut your sorry ass up and 'alu 'o kai ho fa'etanga lohofua BITCH
 

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Thats like saying if the Maori population burn the shit out of New Zealand because the whitemen stole their country than thats is okay with us.
The rioters burn property belonging to other innocent people and result in the lost of innocent lives. The rioters have nothing to do with politic, it has everything to do with racisim, business competition, crapping power.
 

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What are you people protesting about?
Does this mean you white folks don't want to help
black/brown Tongan?
Meli
 

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Tongan people are very loving,caring and honour people but when you mess with it.Hatred,anger,destruction and no respect at all will come.Justice we need in the kingdom from Goverment to Churchs.It showing me here that the gov't did not do their job and church leaders did not do their job too.Becareful church leaders what you feed your folk with.
The troops in Tonga for peace but Tongan already peace when they get what they wanted to do.It ok for the troops to be in Tonga because not everyone are the same.Some lawless people are out there.I don't know what happen to our army and police.We need justice in this apartment.I don't know what to do but this is a call for all the churchs leader to preach the good news to the people and not politics(kosi tau).TO all the leaders don't be greedy and selfish.Remeber our motto: GOD AND TONGA ARE OUR INHERITANCE. but now ALL OUR LEADERS AND TONGA ARE OUR INHERITANCE. Remember 1 King of Tonga.Siaosi Tupou 1 says.My people and my lands are in God's hand.It ok to stand for your right but you can't know the book by the cover.You needs to read the whole book and understand the whole story.Amen!
 

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I am grateful that NZ and Aust. have deployed soldiers to help restore order in Tonga. It is sad to see the handful of people who are protesting against this deployment. I am so glad that both governments are not listening to this handful. They need to do their homework and not randomly take sides without researching what this is all about.
 

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Good on the people of Tonga for standing up for themself -hope next time they will do something worse -It simple they don't want to listen make them listen - Iam supporting the Pro-demo movement all the way
 

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MY UTMOST RESECT FOR THE PM OF TONGA, APPRENTLY A OT OF PEOPLE WITH DISRESPECTFUL COMMENTS DO NOT HAVE ANY IDEA OF WHAT FELETI SEVELE HAS ACCOMPLISHED, AS A CHRISTIAN, BUSINESS AND POLITICIAN. TO MY HOME ISLAND OF TONGA WE HAVE TALKED,WEPT, PRAYED & FAST THESE PAST FEW DAYS, THAT THIS HELPLESS FEELING OF LOVE FOR THE FRIENDLY PEOPLE OF TONGA, THAT WE MAY ALL SEE THE LIGHT, THE JOY OF PEACE AND TAU'ATAINA THAT OUR FOREFATHERS HAD ENJOYED AND WORKED HARD FOR. MISTAKES HAVE HAPPENED IN THE PAST ON THE PART OF THE GOVERNMENT BUT THAT IS THE "NATURE OF HUMANITY" & WE THANK THE PALEMIA FOR THE NEW ANTI-CORRUPTION DEPARTMENT WHICH WILL MINIMIZE IF NOT ELIMINATE HEARTACHES. BOOK OF MARK 13:5B SAYS "VAKAVAKAI NA'A TAKI HEE'I KIMOUTOLU 'E HA TAHA". FKTAUANGE KETAU LOTU KE TAKI KITAUTOLU 'E SIHOVA-AMEN
 

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The prime minister of Tonga, Fred Sevele, should resign. It was his inept handling of the inevitable transition from autocracy to democracy which led to the rioting. The king also bears responsibility and he should be stripped of most of his powers. This will happen eventually and it will be up to the king to decide how much more property has to be destroyed and lives lost until it happens. If Australia and New Zealand wish to spend their money defending their interests in Tonga, fine. But they'll just be throwing their money away and creating longterm instability if they try to prop up the old order. Once democracy is installed, there should be an investigation into the business holdings of the royal family and how they were obtained. I'll bet a lot of back taxes could be collected to repair some of the damage done during the rioting.
 

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Why in Good Gods name would you ever think that violence is the answer to anything, especially in Tonga. These are idiots and if Akilisi has anything to do with the organization of these riots than he'll get what's coming to him. Do you people not understand that this distruction to the country will only affect them and NOT the government. The government will be able to tend to their needs, but the poor citizens of Tonga including the idiots that started all this, will have no means to feed their families. I hope these ignorant idiots would wake up and realize that they are only hurting themselves and their families.
 

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only good will come out of NZ/AUS being in tonga and the govt off tonga is taking note of what the people are saying, there are some people in tonga that need to be watched and to keep them from making more mistakes and getting in to real trouble and or really hurting someone or them selves, the island will survive and coume out fine and they have in the past, the tongan people are the most wonderful on earth and will find the path and head down it and repair the island and all will be good

the Cashman family VA, USA
 

NZ/AUS Troops going to Tonga

The best way to restore order is for the parliament to "Act with Justice, Love with Kindness and Walk humbly in the sight of The Lord".
Peace of Christ be upon you.
 

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I don't agree with the democratic movements and attempts for a political reform in Tonga. For a good long time the beautiful island kingdom has been in order and experienced peace under the traditional monarchial system.

How can violence and chaos reflect and promote that a democratic society can successfully reign. Royals and Nobles don't fist fight during political negotiations and yet the Tongatapu's people's number 1 rep has.

The democrats' platform for change is not eligible and does not justify any capability to rule - at least those with a very sensible mind could never understand why they think they should be in power.

One thing I have seen for sure that democrats do well over the years; they are meticulous critics against government; they loathe royal positions and want to be the royals instead; their primary hobby is criticism instead of peaceful negotiation; they campaign prior to election that they are the 'it' for a people's representative - however they don't care for individuals on a personal level.

When have the people's representatives taken time out of their busy schedules' to help a commoner in need? Their ideals for change have only excited the status quo towards a mere theory only.

EXCILE THE DEMOCRATS!
 

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Has anyone seen any of the Peoples' Representative perform a wellness check on people (workers at stores that were burnt?).

Are the people's representatives' going from home to home (the people that believed and voted them to parliament with good faith) to check if they are ok?

Were the peoples' representatives able to negotiate with the NZ and the Australian government to make sacrifices and assist Tonga in this dire time? Or did the Tonga goverment had to make this choice to help clean up the democrats' mindless actions?

I am sure that families of military personnel whom are being deployed to Tonga to assist with this mess are worried. They have all reasons in the world to be!

When has the government ever come out and showed heart by wreaking destruction to hurt so many innocent people - in order to show what they stand for?
 

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I know where the respentatives are at!! they are sitting at home and try to figure out what to do with their pay-raise which they argued for, wasting a lot of precious time with some fkmatamata lelei reason "DOING THIS FOR THE SAKE OF THOSE THAT WILL REPRESENT THE PEOPLE IN THE FUTURE" This payraise is backdated to the time when parliarment was in session in 2005. OH yea!, after plan A was completed- THE BURNING OF town" so Tongans wont have time to think about the payraise.
 

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That's right friend. no one is talking about the dodgy PAYRISE that they got for themselves. and how TIMELY to have the riot so that everyone's focus will be on govt's shortfalls on not the "wolves in sheep clothing" standing amongst the people. Since when does democracy and human rights (the motto they AP & all proclaim) include looting, theft, mass destruction, blatan discrimination for minorities & the ruin of an economy that will further impoverish the poor? In this whole scenario -- the govt seems to be the LESSER OF TWO EVILS.
 

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WHO DO WE BLAME NOW? gOVERNMENT OR THE PRO-DEMOCRATIC MOVEMENT? RIGHT NOW, THE CUP IS ALREADY BROKEN AND THE WATER IS FLOWING OUTSIDE, WE HAVING NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT EVEN TONGAN OR AUSTRALIAN OR NZ. RIGHT NOW IS A TIME FOR RECONCILIATION BETWEEN THE TWO PARTY AND ALL SAYS "WE ARE WRONG AND NO ONE IS RIGHT" LET START OUR COUNTRY BY WORKING TOGETHER FOR NEW TOGAN AS LATE QUEEN SALOTE SAID WE ARE TONGAN FOR TONGAN(TONGA MA'A TONGA) AND PARY FOR TO GOD FOR HIS GUIDE AND HELPFUL TO OUR BELOVING ISLAND KINGDOM

HA'OLA
 

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Sorry but it's good if the troops are in Tonga!!!!!!!!!!
U hath to think!!!!! But u don't know!! okay!!
U just go out to protest, go home, and try to understand why!!?? But maybe your mind is empty that's why!!
I think for Tongans people, and I understand them!!!
 

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Hail to the Protests! Why not? Does any of you have a family member sent out on a peacekeeping mission or sent to war? How would you feel?

Tongans responsible for the riots and participating in it; as well as sympathizers to that movement owe all the NZ and Australian families who are risking their lives on these Tongans' mindless actions?

Tell me; if you burnt down a property not belonging to yourself; you'd still think you are sane that someone else be clean up the mess on your behalf? Is this the Tongan that you are?
 

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I disagree with you and to make my point would like to burn down your house.
 

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Sorry but you have to have some little brain and a lots of stuff to burn his 3200sq ft house, its not the same with the little 11sq ft shack at whatever motu you came from, dont worry about rebutting, my little shack waws aw little bigger, 13sq ft. and I have a little more brain, not to be evil and anyone's house or shack, even if it is 11aq ft.
 

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do you have one that i could do the same to? if you have an apartment i would not bother.
 

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Nothing can stop an idea whose time has come. Those who try to cling to the old order will only bring more suffering to Tonga. "It is not the strongest of the species that survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change." -- Charles Darwin
 

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What? Burn down my house? Sounds like you need to check into a mental institution? Or maybe a mental institution is too good for you? Your mind is just as black as the smoking buildings in Tonga....correct? Yes!
 

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hey thats okay boss, let him burn down your house. im sure you have insurance. there s this guy that is serving in the tongan jail and his name is uili tohotoho(uili the rapist) dumphucks like the one who wants to burn down ur house will report in to mr. tohotoho in jail. the uniform of the day is... no clothes, u know what happen after that. anyway, dont worry be happy
 

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All of you riot sympathizers and so called 'anti cling to old order' make a good fit for Saddam's Regime...since your typical 'control by violence' style ring true here in this discussion.

Why did the international court deem Saddam's punishment by 'hanging' let alone giving the chance to 'pend'.

Should his outcome be yours too?
 

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Ummm...first you denounce violence when done by the people, then you applaud it when done by governements. You are not against violence, you are against people taking initiative. Learn the difference.
 

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Ummm....problem with your thinking above is that you have a RARE DISORDER IN UNDERSTANDING WHAT VIOLENCE is.

Your ITCH against government (and I reference what someone else mentioned here) IS A PITY CASE. You think you are smarter than government...then show us what shit you got?
 

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yeah right! But in Charles Darwins remark it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that he meant change in presenting referendum NOT TO BE AN ARSONIST, RIOTERS, LOOTERS, OR KILLERS YOU MORON!
 

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Tonga does not need the intelligence of Charles Darwin to make a difference in our ideas. We and our ancestors have our own outstanding philosophies on politics and no need for Darwin.

He may benefit your thinking but enough though.
 

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The only MORON in Tonga is 'Akilisi and his followers for wanting so bad to be royalists. Have you even seen what they look like in real life?
 

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i seen them all! here what they look like.

'akilisi - face lift gone bad
'uli uata - abandoned crab noone wants to eat
cleve edwards - hippotomus gone wild
 

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If anyone resembled Sadam, it was His Royal Highness King Taufa'ahau Tupou IV, RIP.
 

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The king of Tonga has not mutilated and committed violent acts towards life though! You want him bad to be like Saddam when he has not.

People like you show your unlimited support for the burning down of the city; the killing of 8 innocent people; the sacrifice of others. Only 1 word in the English vocabulary known to man describe your being.....and that is 'lawlessness'.
 

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Don't take it as Peace. It is Politic.Lets give it a little change, and things will be settled unharmed. Mr Prime Minister. . Step Down . Things going worst,if you insist.kindly step down and you'll be safe. Mr King.you're alcholic so .you've lived enough luxury life with FOXES only in your head.and it's time to let the people governed their own. If it is democracy that will make them happy, GIVE IT ,WHY hold on to it.Let those people in prison free unhurt, if without your selfishness, they may not be greatly hurt.so worry now about your own security ,you're the creator of danger
 

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A terrible nightmare has happened to us, whereever we are, us Tongans has a big loss.Our families in Tonga must be dramatized with the experience we had when 9/11 of 2000 happened. sympathize with the families of the innocent people who died in the fire, even the families of those who started the fire at the shoreline and got trapped and died. Our deported sons in Tonga have comitted henious crimes, and a lot of them, if not all, were participators of the riot, and we can reach them at the jail in Tonga, if they cant be reached in jail, then they perished in the fire.
 

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The Tongan PM Fred Sevele holds a legitimate PhD and it is only fair for me to say that his position as a Prime Minister is fair. What kind of organization would require lesser credibility for such a coveted and prominent political position?

How many peoples' representatives have a PhD; history of successful leadership; evidence of business acumen; keen insight for political change while upholding peace?

The US and many other hardworking countries are currently in Iraq because Saddam Hussein was not able to make political changes peacefully and non-violently.

This is Tonga's current situation. Other wonderful countries have to share their peacekeeping resources because the democrats are incapable of bringing about needed change whilst protecting the commoners.
 

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Having a PhD does not legitimise your case for being PM. To be Prime Minister, you need to make decisions, good or bad, but just make one so that you can move the debate along. You are paid the big bucks to make those decisions. In this case, everyone was sitting on the fence and were playing with fire (literally). The PM cannot cower behind T5 on this one. Everyone is guilty - the govt for delaying delaying delayin, the pro-democracy leaders who incited the public and the thugs who burnt the buildings, but blame has to go to the top - the PM is not free of that blame and they all should ask why the let it get to the point where people felt they had no other choice but to riot.
 

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The honest truth is; having a PhD qualified him for a PM and strong critic like and all other critics in Tonga could not have made it to that position with your dull reasoning.

Tonga was not born with Democracy; and even when people really want to be a royal or want a spot/say in government; it basically boils down to - there is no opportunity there for people like you. You all love to babble all the time without convincing government and allowing them to do a background check for a PM.
 

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The US are not able to make political change peacefully and non-violently. If they could their military would not be occupying Iraq and killing its civilians. Bush and Saddam are two sides of the same despotic coin.
 

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Exactly! US has a peaceful democracy in place...why in Iraq? why bother Saddam? (or why was Hitler hunted down aggressively?)

'Aikilisi Pohiva of Tonga (plus his political aides) is the Saddam and Hitler of the South Pacific - selfishly wanting power using VIOLENCE.

Demos of Tonga should be hanged including supporters like you. Any court hearing your case would feel guilt throughout life should they spare you.
 

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Fred Sevele may have a PhD but it really blew it when he created the conditions that let to the rioting. After all, Sevele and the king were in power. They should have seen the trouble coming. They should have let people know what was going on instead of trying to make all the decisions behind closed doors while making people think they were only stalling. Tongans had to put up with that sort of thing for 39 years under the old king. If Sevele and the old guard try to hang on, what happened in Nukualofa last week is only the beginning....
 

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Fred Sevele did not light the match that torched the whole city. He did not make that decision! How can he be responsible?

Everyone made their choices and so did rioters, looters, and arsonists! No one else can be responsible for their crime but them. Them and the peoples' reps that have sparked this necessity to bring about a change that could never be birthed in a land that is only meant for kings, and yes, kings that know how to lead and who truly love its people. Tonga is not meant to be led by commoners and will never be.

Which country in the world operates leadership by reporting to people what they meet on daily? Rioters do not deserve to be reported to and listened to at all. The LAW hereon will respond to their needs as they have been verbally threatening and now physically abusive to the Tongan infrastructure.

Who will account for peoples' susceptibility to violence moving forward? The neibouring countries will and so as our local government - these are the people that truly care.

Tongans that cannot bear living under traditional leadership have the option of moving out to a land with laws and leadership they can coincide with. No one has the right to demand change in Tonga.

Shipping out is the better option because as now we see, the only other option is to ship to the Tolitoli Jail. This is the best that democrats' can attain in life - enhance an environment that only the LOW in life go to.
 

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'No one has the right to demand change in Tonga'..in my own country??? Where are you from??? As a Tongan, I will stay put in the country of my birth and DEMAND that I participate to make the country what I want it to be, a country where I can bring my children up according to the beliefs that I have. IF, for some reason my participation is not heard or acknowledged by those in power, I can perservere, but if it gets to the point where my voice is not heard, my children do not have jobs because the economy is going downhill, and we have to kai hamu for most week days yet still contribute to church and nobles feasts, then that will be the day when I may need to shout louder.

You have to ask yourself why there was a situation that allowed the rioters to behave as they did. This is not saying what they did was right. It was illegal and senseless, but the king and govt are not free of blame.

The govt did not need to light the match for the arsonists. Instead, the govt were the falekoloa owners who sold them the box of matches. The pro-democracy leaders were the ones who told the arsonists to go to the falekoloa to buy the matches. If the shopowner had a loaf of bread on offer, the arsonist would have a choice between bread or matches. On this occassion, there was no bread, just big fat match boxes, given to someone who the shopowner knows will go straight out and light the town up.
 

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Damn Right! In your own country! In every country; there is a traditional process in bringing about political change. Try understanding how to negotiate and let that take its course! That is how the profession of politcal change goes.

Rioters and pro-demos agitated each other and ultimately planned out an attack on the government that will only make things worse for everyone as a whole.

Tonga has spoiled you bad because something that you and democrats do best is THREATEN THE GOVERNMENT OF TONGA! No country tolerates that and you are all going to be responsible as no one will hear out your poor reasoning and justification. Can Akilisi Pohiva, Clive Edwards, and Uliti Uata (all all people's reps) save the ass of the jailed rioters now. Will they supplement your loss now?

Does Finau Tutone and all pro-looters have the income to cater for the loss?

Do you yourself have the $$$$$$ for Tonga right now that you can assist to mend things without having people wait.

Demanding people like you are always for sure people in NEED!
 

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Much appreciation is herewith convey to the Peace Action Wellington group for your support in our fight for a more Democratic Gov't here in Tonga that will further the Peace our small island has.

If the current Political System continues, there won't be any peace in our small island paradise in the future.

Don't worry there's order in Tonga already. We welcome the Aust/NZ troops to help pick up the rubbish and clean our town.

The majority of the People now are happy that they've been promised the Political Reform to take place in the next General Election in 2008. They have also submitted a petition to the King in the weekend to fire the PM & Ministers as they have been the cause of the problems here in Tonga, by not advising the King properly in order to keep the peace.

But we know our King anyway, being a stubborn spoiled brat, he wants everything and the all the little money our poor country has. The PM & Ministers should resign if they cannot do their job properly. Let the King do his own dirty work and the People will soon have him following his two Indian Business Friends to NZ.

Keep up the good work railing for Peace throughout the Pacific.

With much appreciation, A Member from the People's National Committee for Political Reform (chaired by 'Akilisi Pohiva, the People's No.1 MP) from the Heart of Nuku'alofa.
 

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May the King and the Prime Minister prevail! My thoughts are with all you royals and nobles who have maintained your dignity throughout this ordeal.

May you members of the People's National Committee for Political Reform only get to see the rubble of the DEMOCRATIC ARSONITISTS SOCIETY that you have worked hard for years to build.

In regards to the King's Indian assistants! Knowing how democrats love the $$$$$$$$....hear this out readers!!!! If they were presented the flashing salaries as the Indian guys; these demos would have worked for the King too and yeah! fled Tonga by now to NZ. Pay these guys and gals the millions - they'd immediately resign from this hypocritical DEMOS for GEMS society too.
 

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The Peoples' MPs deserve their their latest salary rise. They have working hard for the People. Only the King and his Indian Assistants did not deserve their $500,000 - $600,000+ salaries!! That is robbing us of our blood. Big fat brown blood suckers!

Don't you know that the PM & Ministers will get the same salary rise as the MPs? In addition to their Ministerial salaries which is proposed at $70,000 - $90,000? For doing what, nothing!! Most of the work is done by Level 1 - Level 14 of the Government Public Servants!! All they do is listen to what the fat brown blood sucker of a slug tells them to do and no wonder the People start burning down our city. Ko e ha'u ia 'ae hake 'ae kataki ki he ngata'angaa
 

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Nothing is more deserving than sustaining livelihood, peoples' jobs (which is now deflated in ashes). Have you thought of the families and parents of those individuals that were burned to death? If so, what have you done for them? People do not need to die to bring about change!

What have the People's MPs ensured and guaranteed with their brainwashed supporters that they will be around to prevent jailing for them?

Since when should work be run from the bottom up? We too hard workers have to have bosses though perfect or not - but that's what makes an org operable? This is the way it is.

The Tongan traditional government have had so much patience with limited thinking individuals like you.

And as mentioned by someone else earlier in this forum and I believe now that it is true - THAT ALL YOU DEMOS THINK OF IS $$$$$$$$$$$$$$. That is all that matters.
 

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It's King V who thinks about $$$$$ all the time. Look at how he robbed us of the electricity in order to have the $600,000+ salaray from the cents that we put together.
 

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Yes, it takes $600,000 to be in his position. If any other company (local or abroad) pays this salary range to its CEO then why not in Tonga. You've discriminated against his status as a Prince and now a King that you have failed to realize the reality of a CEO payscale. Other countries pay this too, no one said that Tonga can't.
 

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I think you've missed the point on two counts. One is your assumption that electricity infrastructure which was developed and paid for by the people should be run as a profit-making corporation. There are other options, check out the way the waters supply has been run in Cochabamba, Bolivia since it was taken back from Bechtel corporation.

Your second assumption is that because corporate CEOs are paid a salary many hundreds of times greater than the wages of the people actually doing the work in their company in some countries that this is right and necessary. Arguably it is neither. There is plenty of evidence that workers can manage their own workplaces without a separate class of management at all, let alone one taking the lion's share of what their work earns. For examples look at all the worker-run co-operatives whose goods are sold through Trade Aid for example Look at the factory workers who took over their factories during Argentina's financial crisis (see the film The Take). Look at the community garden co-operatives in Cuba that supply much of the food for their neighbourhoods (see the film The Power of Community).
 

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I can help your blind eyes see my points.

People did not develop and pay for the electric corp. to run. They were given jobs to help run it, and it was run to the ground and government had to save it.

Maybe in your country (sounds similar to Demos in Tonga)... why have so much want to paid the equivalent of a CEOs salary? This is UNTAMED THINKING, no doubt! This is also sad that people like you have not nor could not come to grips with reality.

Why should anyone expect to walk into a company and expect to get paid similar with their boss? You are there to work but prior to you working you agree to the salary you will be given.

And yes, CEOs have a drastic salary level because it is deserved and workers can't contest that. A CEO responsibility is not cheap like weaving.

What people here like you look for is to 'take a shit' and still get paid for it.

South America and Cuba are fine but I recommend that you get advanced academic training. It will make a difference.
 

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What about the Royal Princess Pilo? She persuade their Father to give her the Nation's Satelite slots and she's earning millions of dollars from it. With this money she used it to fly around the globe with their lover-boy, Leava'a, for nearly 10 years until she was found red-handed in a hotel overseas.... Return our satelite slots ..........
 

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I don't see an issue with that! So what! She is a princess. You prefer she travel the world in a canoe? Will that make you happy?

Put it this way, if you were a princess! You'd do that too mah friend. Matter of fuct is! You no princess!
 

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She took the nation's gold (satelite slots) which belonged to Gov't & the People for nothing to gain millions. The same as how her brother (King V) took the electricity for nothing to gain millions. That's the issue of why the people are pushing for political reform. To prevent them from taking our nation's pots of gold for their own misusing the powers in the Constitution. what's wrong with sharing the millions with the People through Gov't, to build our country. Instead they only want it for themselves!! Open your eyes before the whole country goes down with them from their own selfishness....
 

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Aah! You people prefer you own the satelite slots yourself and run it better. Sorry! These slots could never be yours.

Go ask your own father to give you an orbital slot so you yourself can make millions from that. Also, go start up your own nation and run its electrical operations so you can get some self satisfaction.

Why don't you try travelling the world and post countries and leaders that share their earnings with everyone as an obligation? It is not wrong for royals and nobles to work, run a business as they see fit.

Tongans still go the Vaiola Hospital and still get medical treatment endlessly for free. Safety has been a guarantee in Tonga until lately. Security control was always great to have around but not anymore. Education is abundant in Tonga, funded and run by government so all can be blessed etc.

There are many benefits to Tonga from the traditional system. Unfortunately, democratic politicians have struck the very source of existence of all Tongan people, because they only want political fame and money for themselves. They need to open their eyes unless still shut - to the destruction they have brought about to the kingdom.

The problems these days is that democrats in Tonga believe that they are smart enough to run a country. This is all speech and it is all pretense.
 

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We are all princesses and princes in the eyes of our parents and of God. It how we use our status in the society wisely and to help others is what matters!! Don't be a selfish princess!! It's not of God....
 

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Don't wish to be a princess when you are not and you will find yourself not complaining.

It is ok for princesses to be who they are; Princess Pilolevu has not harmed anyone nor taken a life. She is a strong contributor to peace and the development of Tonga as a whole.

Many people have criticized poor Princess Pilolevu for who she is when God has chosen her to be one on this earth.

Why complain here regarding a princess that you don't even know personally?

Go ahead and write/phone call the Democratic Party to propose legislation for 2007 for non-princesses to be granted the title of a princess. This is a harmless and more responsible route of getting this accomplished.
 

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ko moutolu 'oku 'elo homou 'atamai he oku mou tukuaki'i e kakai hala.......tau tukuaki'i katoa pe 'ae vale kaita'e koena ko 'Akilisi mo 'Uliti Uata!
 

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Kapau 'oku mou tukuaki'i'a 'Akilisi, ko e ngaue ko eni ki he kole ki he fakalelei fakapolitikalee na'e kamata ia 'e Dr. Langikavaliku he'ene langi mama'o 'e hoko 'ae 'aho pehe ni ka 'ikai tuku hono kai ha'asi 'etau $$ 'ehe fanau 'ae Tu'i 4, now Tu'i 5 mo hono famili, kaunga me'aa 'o mou kai temomo ai mo kimoutolu fie'eiki!! Na'e poupou fefeka kiai moe kau poto lahi 'o Tonga ni Dr. Faifekau Sione 'Amanaki Havea moe 'Epikopo kuo ne mama'o.
 

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Kapau 'oku mou tukuaki'i'a 'Akilisi, ko e ngaue ko eni ki he kole ki he fakalelei fakapolitikalee na'e kamata ia 'e Dr. Langikavaliku he'ene langi mama'o 'e hoko 'ae 'aho pehe ni ka 'ikai tuku hono kai ha'asi 'etau $$ 'ehe fanau 'ae Tu'i 4, now Tu'i 5 mo hono famili, kaunga me'aa 'o mou kai temomo ai mo kimoutolu fie'eiki!! Na'e poupou fefeka kiai moe kau poto lahi 'o Tonga ni Dr. Faifekau Sione 'Amanaki Havea moe 'Epikopo kuo ne mama'o.
 

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Koe ola 'ena e ngaue 'a e kau poto lahi kuo haveki ai 'a Nuku'alofa.

Kapau pe temou takitaha foki ki homou ngaahi 'api 'o talitali mei ai 'e lelei pe me'a hono kotoa. Ka koe toe kapa mai ko'ena moe fiepoto lahi ke fakalele hotau pule'anga 'aki homo ngaahi 'atamai vaivai fau kuo to ai 'a Tonga ki he kovi.

Koe ha kuo toe fetukuaki holo ai pe koe fo'ui 'o hai ne kamata ai e palopalema.

Koe launga he totongi pila mamafa ka na'e fakaa'u ai e 'uhila ki he ngaahi 'otu motu ke si'i lave monu ai hotau kakai. 'Oku mau totongi pila mamafa pe mo kimautolu pea 'oku 'ikai hao ha taha ai.

Koe kulupu temokalati 'oku nau motolo mai pe 'a e maumau moe siokita ki he'etau fanau.

Tuku a e 'ulupala kae o langa 'a Nuku'alofa he 'oku 'ikai keu fie fanongo atu ki ho'o fakapoto he 'oku fu'u namu ta'e 'aupito.
 

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amen,Ave a akilisi ki he pilisone. Ne ma'u hono fainga malie ke 'alu ki tu'a pule'anga ko hono fakava 'ehe Tu'i. Toki 'alu ia 'o fai ha'ane pule ki honau 'api.'Oku 'ikai ke faka falala e kakai ia ki he pule'anga he 'oku nau 'alu pe kinautolu ia ki 'uta pe ko tahi 'o ma'u mei ai 'a 'enau mo'ui.
 

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OATU FK-TAHA AI PE MO KOE AMEN.
 

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FAKA'OFA FIE TU'I 'A 'AKILISI, NA'A MO HELI HE'IKAI TALI IA AI. 'AVE ATU PE KI HE TU'UNGA VEVE 'O FAKAMELEMO AI.
 

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DONT BE QUICK TO POINT FINGERS AT AKILISI AND ULITI UATA, MAN YOUR SO QUICK TO JUDGE YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO JUDGE NO ONE HAS, IT'S THAT KIND OF ATTITUDE THAT MAKES THINGS WORST, WE NEED TO THINK BEFORE WE HAVE ANY SAYING ABOUT ANYTHING.
 

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a finger will always be upped towards akilisi and uliti and any DEMO DREAMER engaged in this RIOT MOVEMENT. WHO JUDGED THEM? the outcome of the riotings did.

why would anyone else be considered as responsible, ay?
 

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may be youre responsible, so you should go point your fingers up your ..ss were the sun don't shine not at the people's PM, or have already done that.
 

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i agree with the supreme court judge in Tonga that what the rioters and demo dreamers did is a grave crime and it is good that death penalty is still allowed in the constitution.

the sun did shine on Tonga's PM because he is acadmically bright (a PhD) and physically has bright skin complexion.

you did not want the sun to shine on anyone else because when it shone on you IT DID FRY YOU and YOUR BRAINS TOO!

we know where to put our fingers and down there in the butt is never considered...but if you think we should stick it in our butts...WE WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT TOO BUT TAKE IT OUT WITH CONTENTS WITHIN AND PAINT YOUR FACE AND TONGUE!!!Arent' we cool?
 

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HEY DONT TALK ABOUT YOUR SELF LIKE THAT
OUA E KOHU HAHA.
 

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TA KOE KO HO'O 'ITA 'AU HE POTO LAHI 'O FELETI SEVELE. FAKA'OFA PE HO'O AKO IA 'A'AU TAHA 'E KITE MAI KI MAMANI. NA'E LAVA HO'O HIGH SCHOOL HE 'OKU HA MAI PE 'E KOE NE 'IKAI LAVA MO IA IA. HAHAHAHAHAHA! VALEKUA 'ENE MATOLU.
 

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ko ia koe o fiepoto ki he pule'anga Tonga he na'a nau ma'u mata'itohi nautolu mei fe. koe fiepoto moe 'atamai pakupaku he ko hai 'oku fie fanongo atu ki he 'atamai papaka.
 

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Look bebe? akilisi and 'uli uata are judgeable because they rile up rioters against Tonga...they not have the moolah to wash the aftermath because they bank account no good enough...soooooh what they do now tey probably really scared since they do not have money to clean up mess.

okey! i no judge tham then i will jus a wonder if they have carpentry skills to rebuild the burned down houses in the city...good fing is Tupou Five is aaah! nice man he won't ask them to do that.

i really fink though they aah need to strip naked in city to show people they are sorry and have everyone whip them buttocks. this is bettah than judging like you say.
 

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haha they dont have the money, he oku ikai ke na kai pa'anga naua ia, Tupou has a lot of money from the people, and maybe you should ask him to give you some so you could go back to school and earn english and how to spell U FOB.
 

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SI'I FAKA'OFA E FEINGA O KAIHA'A HE PA'ANGA 'A E PULE'ANGA. KO POPUA 'ENA KEKE 'ALU KI AI MO HO FAMILI 'O MA'U MO'UI MEI AI MO HO'OMOU FAKA'OFA. 'IKAI 'I AI HA'AMOU NGAUE SAI 'A MOUTOLU HE 'OKU MAHINO MAI PE HO'OMO FE'AMOKAKI HE O 'O LEA HOLO KA NAUTOLU 'OKU NAU TU'U MALIE MO MA'U 'ENAU ME'A.

ANGA 'AE PAKUPAKU AFI'I E FAKATUPU MOVEUVEU HOLO HENI. 'ALU A 'O FUCKI HO'O MOU TOPAI KEMOU KAI HE 'OKU MOU 'ASI FIEKAI MAI 'AUPITO. FANGA MASIVA 'ELO'ELO MO'UI.
 

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kuo lemu tonga he ngaue 'ae kau kai falemalolo 'a 'akilisi mo 'uliti moe usi niua koena.....sio mai kuo mau popula he nofoma'u koe ngaue homou fanga ki'i 'uto pani ta'e!
 

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Ko e fo'i lea "L" moe "U" mo e"T" ko ena 'oku ke tohi'i maii, sio hifo pe koe ki loto ki ho talausese 'oku fonu ai pea vakai atu moe fanga ki'i talausese 'i homou 'apii na'a kuo fonu mahua ai....
 

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'Ikai, koe tuha ia e kau temo 'i Tonga 'a 'Akilisi, moe 'otu; ke lea'i pehe pe pea ke fakaha mo'oni 'ehe kakai 'ae tonounou 'enau ngaue ma'ae kakai. Koe mate 'a e toko 6 pe 8 na'e tonu ke 'oua 'e hoko.

Tuku e kakai ia kenau lea tau'ataina; ke fakataputapui 'e koe heni; ko hai na'a ne faka'ai'ai e kakai ke nau o 'o kalusefai 'enau mo'ui ke fai 'aki e fakaha poini 'a e kau fakafofonga kakai 'i falealealea?
 

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'Ikai ko e toto ia kuo lingii ke 'eke ia ki he Tu'i 5 pea ko e lea ia 'oku totonu ke fai kiaii 'a 'ena ia 'oku mou ngaue'akii. He koe siana kai hahaha'a, tohotoho 'ae fanau fefine iikii, pea toe fakapahia'i si'i kakai tangata 'e ni'ihi. 'Oku tau fiema'u nai ha Tu'i pehee? 'Ai aa ha'a tau lao ke ngofua 'ae mali 'ae tangataa mo e tangataa kae fai mo mali moe fakapaia ki he'etau fanau fefinee 'ene fafa takai holo aii/..
 

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Ki'i 'eke atuu, ko e mo'oni koaa na'e fafa 'ae Tu'i 5 'ia Maliana Sevele 'i Vava'u? Ko e 'uhinga nai eni 'oku piki ai 'ae Tu'i 5 'ia Feleti Sevele??!!***@
 

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'IO, 'oku piki e Tu'i ia 'ia Feleti he 'oku ma'u mata'itohi toketa ia mei muli pea lahi mo 'ene ngaahi ngaue lelei 'ana ia 'oku fakahisitolia.

Ka 'oku 'i ai hao matatohi pehe pea ke sio hifo ka koe teke anga faka'apa'apa ki he Tonga kotoa, ne tonu pe keke fepotalanoa'ki koe mo Tupou 5 kene fakakaukau'u ha'o ngaue tatau mo Feleti.

Koe lea kia Maliana, koe kakai talavou pehe ia 'oku 'ikai toe 'eke'i. Taha ko ha'o 'asi mai he 'ikai toe fiema'u ke fai ha sio tu'o ua atu ka koe.
 

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'Ai 'ae manako 'a Princess Pilo 'ia teauu!!!
 

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Ngali ne mihi te tokotaha ia ko 'eni.
 

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YEA ONLY A RELATIVE OR CLOSE FRIEND OF THE PRIME MINISTER AND THE KING OR WHO GAINS LIVING FROM THEM BY DOING DIRTY WORK WOULD DEFEND THEM.
BUT THEN AGAIN I COULD BE WRONG, OR MAYBE RIGHT
 

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Tupou V, can you please share your villa with this person because they have not made it good in life (maybe dont know how?).

Sorry that life has not been good to you, I understand why you constipate about the royal family and government. MAYBE SOMEONE TOOK A SHIT ON THE FACE AND HE/SHE STILL WANT MORE.
 

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man this person is funny did someone shit on your face before and then you keep asking for more lol.
hay everybody has a good life, maybe yours is full of shit get a life.
 

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o fie fakatatau ki palasi moe fakaoli. koe feinga ki he kakai koia tenau kasele mai ho afi. nonga pe koe ho'o mo'ui; ko ho'o feinga atu ka nautolu tenau te'epilohi mai koe keke faka'ofa. 'oku 'ikai kemou teitei va tatau. 'alu pe koe 'o feinga'i ho imisi ke 'ilonga 'i ho'o ngaue pe 'a'au 'o 'ikai ke teu lele kaiha'a mei he ha'a tu'i 'o tonga he teke ngaue popula ai koe ha 'aho.
 

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Tupou V, can you please share your villa with this person because they have not made it good in life (maybe dont know how?).

Sorry that life has not been good to you, I understand why you constipate about the royal family and government. MAYBE SOMEONE TOOK A SHIT ON THE FACE AND HE/SHE STILL WANT MORE.
 

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Then why do you waste your time coveting their shit then?
 

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'Ikai 'eke ia ki he kau fakafofonga kakai pe na'a nau 'i fe he kamata tutu 'o Nuku'alofa.

'Osi laulau houa e tutu te'eki ke 'asi hake ha taha 'o e kau fakafofonga kakai ki kolo ke fai ha me'a ke malu'i e kakai.

Koe lea ka Tupou 5 'oku anga faka'apa'apa ia. Ne nofo pe e tama ia ka koe hou'eiki fafine pe ne totolo atu he po'uli 'o kole. 'Io 'oku tuha ia ke tu'i - HE 'OKU 'IKAI NOFO IA 'O FAKAKAUKAU FAKASETANE HANGE KO KOE.
 

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Na'e 'i loki Kapineti 'ae kau fakafofongaa 'i he taimi na'e fai ai 'ae tutuu 'o negotiate for the People. Ko 'Isileli Pulu na'e lele 'o muimui 'o fkkolekole 'ae kau 'itaa ke tuku 'ae tutuu.

Ko e 'uhinga 'oku 'ikai 'asi ai 'e kau fakafofongaa he kuo tapui kinautolu 'ehe Tu'i ke nau ngaue'aki 'ae TV & Radio. For your info.
 

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Koe tapui koe valekaita'e 'o e litasipi mei he kamata'anga. Lava e tutu moe mate; koe ha 'anatolu kau temo valengangaue 'e toe lava 'o fai. Kapau na'e faka'ata; koe o ai pe 'o uki e kakai ke hokohoko atu e fakavalevale.

Nofo 'a Tupou 5 ia 'o fakakaukau'i e lelei moe nonga e fonua fakalukufua mo 'etau ngaahi fanau kae nofo e kau Temo ia 'o toi falemalolo mo 'ikai lingi ha kapavai ki he vela na'e hoko?
 

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Ko 'ene fakakaukau fakasetanee ena na'e li'aki ai 'e hoku tokouaa!!
 

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You wish! Tupou 5 don't want trash like your tokoua.
 

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FINAU TUTONE....MAFUKE 'O SIKO HO TAUSESE.....OKU IKAI KE MAU VALE KAITA'E 'O HANGE KO MOU3......MATA'I 'USI EEEH....MAFUKE 'O KOLE KA PAHA'ULAA KE MAFULE MAI O FKLELEI 'A TONGA....KA IKAI PEA KE ALU KIAI KEMO SIKO LOUA AI....FULEI'I O TUKU E HELE HOLO HO LEMU .;........TALA KA 'AKILISI....TEU HAE HONO 'USI....HE KOAAA...'ULITI...MATA'I TA'E FA'ELU.....FIELAU KOHO MAFUKE MAI MEI LEMU....SIO MAI FU SIKA'I NIUA KOENA KO LEPOLO MOE TAPALII KOENA KO 'OFA SIMIKI.......MAFUKE 'O TUKU HOMO FAI E ME'A KOE AVA NOA'IA HOLO KAMO TAKITAHA MAHAE KIHONO MALI 'O KAI TA'E AI.........SA'A!.........KE MOU FAI MO 'EHO MAI KAE NONGA E FONUA!
 

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'Alu 'o fai kotoa 'ae me'a ko ena 'oku ke tohi maii 'i 'api ee. 'Oku 'ikai temau fie lau 'e mau tolu tatau pe pe koe fa'ahi fe 'oku mau kau kiaii, kakaii pe ko e Tu'ii, 'oku mau kei ngaue 'aki pe 'ae lea faka'apa'apa. Kapau ko e lea ena 'oku ke anga maheni 'aki 'oku fai ki ho'o tamaii, fa'ee, tuofefine, tuonga'ane, tokoua pea ke kataki 'o fai pe ia 'i 'api 'oua 'omai ki mamani ee..
 

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'Oua, 'Oua 'e fai ha kohu, 'oku 'ikai ke 'iai hano kovi 'ona hono ngaue'aki e ngaahi lea kehekehe ke takitaha fakaha mo'oni mai e loto.

Ka 'oku 'ikai teke lava koe 'o lau e ngaahi pousi, pea ke kataki pe koe 'o me'a he tafa'aki.

Ko e kakai mo'oni 'eni ia 'oku nau 'ofa ki Tonga 'oku nau fakaha ma'a honau loto 'onautalu. OKU 'IKAI KO HA ANGA TA'EFAKA'APA'APA IA!

'AI ho'o lau 'a koe ki he kau kapekape koe na'e fai 'i loto pangai si'i. Tala katoa ki he kau lotolahi koia pe ko fe feitu'u ke 'uluaki fakahu'u ki ai 'enau kapekape!
 

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Malie 'aupito e saame,Fkmalo atu he ngaahi lea mamafa kuo ke huekina.Kapau oku kei toe pea ke toe lau'i mai kenau fanongo tuoua kiai.CARING IS SHARING.HE ko eni pe honau tuha,koe ngaahi lea mamafa,ke nau fa 'o fua kiai.GOOD JOB MAN.haaaaaa.
 

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poupou'i 'a e vale kapekape na, malie Tonga, toki 'osi ni pe 'etau sio tutu 'a e kau vale kuo mo toe hu mai moe fo'i vale ko 'ena. ko fe Tonga 'oku lau mo proud holo'aki, kape folalahi? 'Ofa'ia au si'i 'o mo fine'eiki, 'oku ou fakapapau atu na'e 'ikai tene ako'i pehe'i moua, tuku a e no'ia Tonga e!
 

Re: 'Ilo Kapekape

ko ho'o malualoi 'elo 'a koe he 'ilo kapekape koe ha hono 'uhinga.

'oku 'ilo kapekape kotoa pe kau ai 'etau ngaahi fa'e'e. mo koe pe na'a ke 'ilo kapekape mei ho'o fu'u fa'e moe tangai..ue moe tamai.

tuku e malualoi ke fai 'ehe kau temo 'i Tonga, ha'u koe mo ho'o fakakalisitiane lolotonga 'emau hoha'a ki Tonga.

ta'efa'elu 'alu 'o mohe moe fakamole sio
 

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Koia 'ave atu 'a 'ta'e'ilokapekape' 'o loka ha falemalolo ponu moe fie innocenti.....

Ha'u kitautolu 'o fakaha hotau loto kae toe fakalele nanamu fievaleloi mai ia mo 'ene matu'a he tafa'aki.
 

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MATA'I FALEMALOLO PONU, TAPUNI HO AVA'I 'OLOVAHA 'OUA TEKE FA'A MAFUKE MAI HO AVA 'ELO 'O 'AI HINGOA HOLO HENI MOE MATA'USI. ANGA FEFE HO'O 'ILO PE KO HAI 'OKU NE FAI E TOHI. KO HO'O MAFULE MAI 'O LEA HINGOA HOLO KAE 'IKAI KE SIO HIFO HO 'USI KIA KOE. KOE LEA LAHI HE TOHI KA KOE 'ASI MAI PEA TAU SIO ATU KE HANGE MAI HA FU'U TOFUA'A 'ELO. 'AI MO FAKAKAUKAU'I HO LEA PEA TUKU HO POTO KE LANGA 'AKI HA'O KASELE KE KE SIKOTATA AI. KOE LEA TAKAI HOLO PEA TAU SIO ATU AI PE KI HE ME'A 'OKU KE MOHE AI 'OKU 'IKAI TOE FAIKEHEKEHE MOE ME'A 'OKU KE SIKO AI. 'ALU 'O 'AI HO NGUTU 'ELO 'O TALITALI KE FUFULU 'AKI E MONGOMONGA MOE KUMA HOMOU 'API. LAHI E LEA KOE VAKAI 'OKU 'IKAI FUEA E LANGO HO AFI. 'AI A MOE MATA E AFI 'OKU HANGE MAI HA TUNGAIKU HA HOOSI.
 

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Heee? 'Oku 'ikai toe 'eke'i e mata ia ko 'eni. Koe ha e falemalolo ponu (he 'oku te'eki keu siko au ai ka ko koe pe). Ko 'eku toki 'ilo 'eni 'oku 'i ai e me'a koe falemalolo ponu. Na'a mou toe fangota ai? homou falemalolo ponu?

Koe lea mai ki he sino ia ko 'eni 'oku ou pa mata mo malaki 'e au koe ke tete'e mai ho fu'u fo'i mata'i lulu.

Kapau 'oku te'eki keke sio ha sio'ata mo'oni pea ke fetu'utaki mai kau seni atu e sio'ata koe he'ikai tene lohiaki'i koe. KO HO MATA 'OU 'OKU MATAMATALELEI ANGE E LOHOFUA IA A E HOOSI!

Na'e 'ikai mei talaatu ka koe keke 'ilo'i ka ko ho'o toe futefute mai ko 'ena pea talaatu ai leva.

Pea ka swimsuit mani'i e tungaiku ia ko 'eni 'oku kei MA'A LAHI ANGE IA HO FU'U MATA'I TA'E....'E TOE LELE MAI HO'O TAMAI 'AU MO HO FANGA UNCLE MO E FANGA TUONGA'ANE MATA'I TEVOLO 'O TOE FA AI!.
 

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'Iui'i, 'ai a moe fa'ahing sika'i hoosi 'oku'ai ke mole hoto taimi hono 'eke. Kikila mai ho afi, koe fa'ahing sika 'ena ia 'oku 'ikai hake ai hoku famili, he kou talaatu ko 'enau si'i sio atu pe kia koe te nau lua. Tuku e fakalanga ta'aki 'o ai swimsuit koe tuai kemo ho'o swimsuit kuo muhu atu e lango ho tungaiku. Let me know if you'll need the deuche so I can come and deuche your ass, if you know what's that mean. Pea ki he tungaiku ko'eni, 'oku ma'a ange ia ho mata'i afi. Koe LOHOFUA HOOSI, ko'ena ia 'i 'api 'oku ke toutou ngaahi ma'u pe moe MATA'ILULU. Ka 'oku ke lotolahi, pea post ha'o ta ke mau me'a atu ki ho mata'i tungai. He koe kovi 'eku loi, mahalo e fiu fakasio pe ko fe ho tungaiku mei felipilipi'i hifo ho tapa'ikete. Maafi pe 'o lea ka koe kae 'oua teke toe fuke mai 'o kaaimumu'a 'o fakahingoa takai holo heni moe sikotata.
 

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ko hai na'a ne fakatupu 'ita ki he tui suimisuti..tukunoa'i pe mu'a e hoosi ia he 'oku mahino pe ma'a ange e me'a kotoa 'o e hoosi ia 'ia koe...

kapau na'ake ngaue'aki 'a e fale malolo ponu pea 'oua mu'a 'e fai ha ma he 'oku mahino pe ne si'i 'i ai e ni'ihi ne masiva pea kamata kaukau pe moe ponu hange pe koe fakalea mai ko'ena 'i 'olunga.

sai e kau tui swimsuit ia ne nau tupu pe mo ia pea mahino pe ia ko e kakai kili ma'a 'aupito 'e toe hinga ai e tamai moe tuonga'ane ia....ka ko ko'ena ku 'ita ki ai...tui pe koe swimsuti ho 'ulu pea fai 'aki ia...tuku e fifisi ia ko 'ena he 'oku ke 'ita pe koe ia he tupu hake moe kasele ponu...
 

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ko hai na'a ne fakatupu 'ita ki he tui suimisuti..tukunoa'i pe mu'a e hoosi ia he 'oku mahino pe ma'a ange e me'a kotoa 'o e hoosi ia 'ia koe...

kapau na'ake ngaue'aki 'a e fale malolo ponu pea 'oua mu'a 'e fai ha ma he 'oku mahino pe ne si'i 'i ai e ni'ihi ne masiva pea kamata kaukau pe moe ponu hange pe koe fakalea mai ko'ena 'i 'olunga.

sai e kau tui swimsuit ia ne nau tupu pe mo ia pea mahino pe ia ko e kakai kili ma'a 'aupito 'e toe hinga ai e tamai moe tuonga'ane ia....ka ko ko'ena ku 'ita ki ai...tui pe koe swimsuti ho 'ulu pea fai 'aki ia...tuku e fifisi ia ko 'ena he 'oku ke 'ita pe koe ia he tupu hake moe kasele ponu...
 

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