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Revolutionary not Evolutionary – indymedia activists report from Tonga

Report 1:Friday/Saturday, November 24/25, 2006

Nuku’alofa (Tonga) – We, two indymedia (www.indymedia.org.nz) activists, arrived at Fua’amato International Airport early on Friday morning from Aotearoa. After leaving the plane we had to walk to the arrival hall past three Tongan soldiers, two of which were carrying large rifles and the other a hand gun. A police officer walked around with his dog while people where waiting at the immigration desks. More members of the Tongan Defense Force (TDF), armed and in camouflage gear, stood around in the arrival hall. On our way into town we past a military checkpoint at the turn-off to the airport. They didn’t pull us over and we drove the 20kms into the city.

Tonfön destroyed

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Tonfon: Burnt to the ground
In the morning we made contact with members of the Friendly Island Human Rights and Democracy Movement (FIHRDM) and arranged to meet up later. In the interim we went for a two hour walk through Nuku’alofa. On our way towards the city we came across a building which was completely destroyed from Thursday’s fires. It was the headquarters of Tonfön, a telecommunication company owned by the royal family.

Checkpoints
Just before entering the city centre, across from the Royal Tombs, a military checkpoint is set up. In fact, the whole city centre is cordoned off by roadblocks on every street. Only people who work or live inside the area can enter. You have to be on a list in order to pass. Each checkpoint constitutes off a set of barricades to stop cars with spikes on the ground. There are between two and eight soldiers on guard at each checkpoint. The bigger checkpoints have Tongan and Australian soldiers. The Australian soldiers moved into town on Saturday for guard duty. We counted approximately 12 roadblocks in central Nuku’alofa. The Tongan TV station, which is out of the city centre, is also closed by army personnel of which two are from Australia. “We do what the Tongan government tells us” said one of them.

NZ is investigating
We came across two NZ police officers and one NZ firefighter who were busy investigating ‘arson crimes’. They told us that there are two teams, made up of one firefighter, one police photographer and two investigators (all from New Zealand) along with Tongan police, operating at the moment. “We are here to help to assist the Tongan police” said a NZ police officer.

Interviews
We then had the opportunity to interview five people who are involved in the democracy movement: Finau Tutone, an organiser with the Friendly Island Teachers Association; Akanete T. Lauti, the director of FIHRDM; 'Akilisi Pohiva and Lepolo Taunisila, both Members of Parliament (two of the nine representatives elected by the people – in a parliament of 30); and Tevita Tui Uata of the National Tongan Business Association.

Very quick summary:
Finau talked about last year’s strike and the connection between the trade union movement and the pro-democracy movement. He said the system needs to change in Tonga. Akanete informed us about the FIHRDM’s activities. They organise workshops and meeting to educate people on human rights issues. While she advocates for non-violence, she does not blame the people but the Government for Thursday’s riots. 'Akilisi put the movement into a historical context and talked about the progress, or lack of, made inside parliament. Lepolo is one of only two women in parliament (the other one being the Minister of Justice – appointed by the King). She only started to get involved in politics last year when she was elected to parliament as a people’s representative from an outer island. Tevita, who has been blamed for the riots, thinks that representative democracy will get Tonga out of a system that only works for 1% of the population. He was strongly opposed to Tonga joining the World Trade Organisation and says that the wealth needs to be shared more equally among the people.

NZ/OZ soldiers – get out (or “enjoy your holiday”)!
With the exception of Tevita, all of the people we spoke to either do not see the point of the New Zealand and Australian troops’ presence or see them as supporters of the autocratic system. Either way, they want them out of Tonga. The NZ soldiers are not to be seen in Nuku’alofa (they are still somewhere at the airport) and the Australian troops do not seem to do much at all except for sitting around at checkpoints with big guns. Pro-democracy advocates are very critical of NZ support for the government. They say the NZ government should be neutral and not send soldiers to support the system.

Revolutionary not Evolutionary
Many shops have slogans painted on them. Across from the market, someone wrote “THE NU FACE OF YOUTH REBELLION” and “REVOLUTIONARY NOT EVOLUTIONARY” on a burnt-out shop. Other slogans are “Freedomfighter”, “Fight the Power”, “Democracy not Hypocrisy”, “You had it coming” and “Fuck Prime Minister”. Many of them are signed by ‘Ezekiel’.

Police checkpoints
The police have set up two checkpoints on both sides of town. They pull most cars over and search the boot. We were told they are looking for weapons and stolen goods. They say it is illegal for people to carry weapons and they claim to have confiscated eight .22 riffles over the last few days.

Army guards the King’s residence
We walked to the King’s mansion which is guarded by four Tongan soldiers. The huge house is around 300 meters off the road. While taking photos a black SUV left the premises and the gate was opened for a few seconds. One of the soldiers was prepared to say a few words on camera. He said he does not want democracy in Tonga, he wants peace.

Marching band practice
On our way back into town we stopped at a high-school where a marching band was practicing. Over 50 young men were playing in the band which includes tubas, trombones, trumpets and a percussion section. Everybody is incredibly welcoming and keen to talk about politics. Everybody we talk to wants change here in Tonga. People are sick and tired of living in this system where 1% of the population lives in luxury on the expense of everybody else.

Photos: slm
Text: smush
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Army checkpoint outside the Broadcasting studio
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Finau Tutone, an organiser with the Friendly Island Teachers Association
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Akanete T. Lauti, the director of FIHRDM
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'Akilisi Pohiva, MP and a founder of FIHRDM
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Leopolo Taonesila, MP and a supporter of FIHRDM
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Tevita Tui Uata of the National Tongan Business Association
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Revolutionary not Evolutionary
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Fight the Power - Power to the People
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Democracy not Hypocrisy
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Police checkpoint on the way to the airport
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The gate to the King's mansion
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Empty street inside the closed of part Nuku'alofa - Chinese Embasst
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Marching Band practice
 
 
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Re: Revolutionary not Evolutionary – indymedia activists report from Tonga

uh, i forgot: the black and purple material on the king's gate is a sign for mourning (not anarcha-feminism). The King died not so long ago and a few houses and almost every government building have black and purple flags.
 

Re: Revolutionary not Evolutionary – indymedia activists report from Tonga

Awesome to see such an in depth report by independent journalists - hope your having some fun over there :) - John
 

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fantastic photos too!
 

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you guys are amazing, i love you
we all miss you and can't wait for you to come back and hold a great big public meeting to tell us all about it.
love you both madly and miss you and so does the frog.
 

Re: Revolutionary not Evolutionary – indymedia activists report from Tonga

What about talking to the silent majority? It would do you good to see both sides of the coin. Lucky the other side is not as stupid as these revolutionaries. Oh forgot you would only go looking for your fellow activists. We love the Aussies/Nz soldiers here. Give people especually the Chinese minority a sense of security. Or is that not on the agenda of the activists? End justifies means?
 

Do more digging

The riots are nothing short of terrorist acts by criminals and the pro democracy movement to archieve their political goals. How dare they use democracy for their greedy political agendas? Is democracy violence, looting and racism? How would Tongans abroad feel if they were targetted? Read their bloated victory speeches as Nuku'alofa burns www.matangitonga.to/article/tonganews/politics/victoryspeech221106.shtml
You need to do a little more digging into both sides. What about 'Akilisi's anti-immigrant policies? You are no different to the ignorant mainstream currently reporting in Tonga.
 

Re: Revolutionary not Evolutionary – indymedia activists report from Tonga

oku fakapiko aupito e temokalati koia oku tuku aki'i mai e akilisi he oku iku ia kihe me'a kehe pea tuku ho'o fie pule, moe kau memipa kuo lahi fau e nonofo kovi ia
 

Re: Revolutionary not Evolutionary – indymedia activists report from Tonga

ko fe tauataina koia na'a mou tukuaki, oku mole e tau'ataina koia 'a e tonga i he aho ni i nuku'alofa.
 

Re: Revolutionary not Evolutionary – indymedia activists report from Tonga

What a great article. I agree with the other comments about digging into both sides. As a Tongan American, I feel that Tonga will be lost in the greed of a democratic political environment. The poor will only get poorer and the seperation of church and state will not exist in 100% Chirstian Tonga. As of now, most Tongans have it good. Free health care, education. Give them a people run government then ask them to pay taxes. See how many would say, "Oh, we can not afford taxes". Those who participated in the riots seem to have been raudy deported misfits from the US. Ex-gang members and scum of society. What ever happens, may God bless Tonga and all her people.
Alavini, Juneau, Ak. USA
 

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Alavini, you make a good point: Tongans have had good social services (education, health care, low government fees) in many ways. The thing is, plans for re-structuring of the economy (including taxation) have been in the works for about 6 years, and the economy has been gong sour for almost that long too. Without our remitances, there would be no Tongan economy, no Pajuros driving around Nuku`alofa, no monster houses in Tofoa and Halaleva... But not everyone is benefitting from the monetised economy. In many ways, I think the support for democracy is in fact a critique of the visible inequity that people in Nuku`alofa see every day; But few really see the underlying causes, which include, but go far beyond, any privileging the hou`eiki have received or the royals and their chums have been able to gain for themselves. For example, it's interesting that none of *Pilolevu's* businesses or residences were attacked. TongaSat is as much a rip-off of national resources as Shoreline, and her brother (the king) confronted her with this years ago, but as daddy's girl, she go away with what she wanted. I find it very curious that her holdings weren't damaged, and she isn't named in the graffiti.
 

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Having been to Tonga, your so called good and free health care is nothing more than an illusion. Perhaps you have been drinking to much kava.
 

Re: Re: Revolutionary not Evolutionary – indymedia activists report from Tonga

Having been to Tonga, your so called good and free health care is nothing more than an illusion. Perhaps you have been drinking to much kava.
 

Re: Revolutionary not Evolutionary – indymedia activists report from Tonga

Enjoyed the article and photos. Yes would be nice to hear from both sides. Tongan people are tired of waiting for so-called reforms by governement. Actions speak louder than words. I don't agree with looting and burning, that wasn't necessary. People lost lives, very sad for their families and friends.
But Tongans are no longer just servents to the monarchy - they are well educated,and can tell when they are being made slaves.
Go forwards Tonga, it is the 21st century.
 

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True, looting and destruction are absolutely not necessary! The lives lost, sad and unfortunate!

As for the people's education...hmmm...interestingly enough, the so call "educated" only got their education becuase of the vision of the late King! If the monarchy was so bent on enslaving the people of Tonga, then how does one explain the last 40 years of economic growth, most phd per capita, ongoing soscial reforms of what used to be "taboo" in the culture.

It seems to me that greed of money and power are the prime directive of this movement. My experience tells me that when greed is in the mix, the fabric of violence is almost always the means of justifying the destruction of any society.
 

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What slavery are you talking about? Tonga is a free country, it may not be perfect but is free with the (exception of the election of members of parliament - and that will happen). Democracy will hopefully bring forth a better form of government but not under these terrorists masquerading as pro democracy leaders.
 

Re: Revolutionary not Evolutionary – indymedia activists report from Tonga

This is a very interesting and useful report, especially for the descriptions of what is happening -- the road blocks, the marching band, etc. I would have proof read it better (the spelling errors belie the 'news reporter' claims). There is also some bias in the fact that you only report on the HR&DM folk's and some soldiers' & police perspectives. It would be especially valuable if you would go away from Nuku`alofa -- say, Pangai or Neiafu, and talk to people there. So much of the reportage assumes that Nuku`alofa and Tongatapu are ALL of Tonga, and that just isn't the case. But those people's voices are not being covered at all -- by any media. Also, when did the name of the demos change? Since before last year's strike, it was the Tongan Human Rights & Democracy Movement (THRDM), now you are calling it the Friendly Islands Human Rights & Democracy Movement (FIHRDM). Is this a new name (it's the same people) or did you make a mistake?
 

Re: Revolutionary not Evolutionary – indymedia activists report from Tonga

'Oku ou tui au kihe liliu 'e ni'ihi pe, ka 'oku 'ikai keu tui au kihe founga liliu 'a Akilisi etc. Kuo ha 'ae laka peacefulu ia?
 

Re: Revolutionary not Evolutionary – indymedia activists report from Tonga

'Oku ou fifili pe koe fa'ahinga tanga fefe 'a Clive Edwards. Koe ha 'ae fa'anga tui 'oku ne taukave'i. Koe lolotonga koe 'ene kei Minisita Polisi, ko ia pe na'ane poupou'i mo fakahu mai 'ae kau Siaina ki Tonga. Ko taimi ni, koia pe 'oku ne poupou'i ke tuli 'ae kau pisinisi Siana mei Tonga. Kai 'ia ai pe ha taha 'oku 'ikai ke pau pe 'oku tu'u 'i fe, pea 'oku ui leva ia koe fakasesele. Tatau aipe pe 'oku fuhifuhi mata'itohi.
 

Re: Revolutionary not Evolutionary – indymedia activists report from Tonga

Na'e lea 'aki he'e kau Temo 'ae tamoloki moe fakaehaua'i he'e kau taki, 'ae kakai 'oe fonua. ' Oku nau pehe pe koe ha 'ae me'a na'e hoko 'ihe ngaahi 'aho kuo tau situ'a mei ai. Hono faka'ai'ai 'ae fanga ki'i valevale ke nau tutu mo kaiha'asi 'a e ngaahi pisinisi 'ae kakai na'e too honau kakava hono ngaue'i? 'Oku ui 'eni nai koe ha? 'Oku ui 'eni koe fakaei hau'ai mo e tamoloki 'ae kakai.'Oku 'ikai koe founga faka Temokalati 'eni. Tele ofi pe 'eni ia 'ihe founga 'ae kau Kominiusi.
 

Re: Revolutionary not Evolutionary – indymedia activists report from Tonga

I'm not familiar with the internal workings of Tonga; only what i have read in the mainstream press. Those articles struck me as one-sided (even though they make a false show of objectivity). However, as with many indymedia reports, the above article, while well researched, is also clearly one-sided. I'd like to hear from a wider variety of people, especially those outside the capital city. I'm glad you people go out there on fact-finding missions but its about time that many independent media outlets stopped reflecting the mainstream by pushing an agenda and reporting from a narrow point of view. This method will regularly alienate more people than it attracts and further polarise points of view. Not helpful, as we need to find our common ground to have any hope of moving forward in our collective thinking as humans.

jon
 

Re: Re: Revolutionary not Evolutionary – indymedia activists report from Tonga

Could you please define independent media outlets. The ones that people in Tonga often refer to as independent are onesided. e.g. They refer to OBN TV as independent yet they are far from that, same with the Kele'a. Radio Tonga is often referred to as onesided and so as the Talaki and the Taimi. Now your report is onesided also. May be its better if we could refer to them as bloggers instead.
 

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i would say indymedia is independent from governments and from businesses. we don't need/want to make money and so do not adverts etc. we are free from being controlled by capitalists.

i dont think the independent stands for not taking sides. we are just ordinary people like you who have opinions, desires, ideas and hopes. indymedia is you and me!
 

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Your independance is very questionable, Indy's article on Tonga is so one sided you must be blind or your illusion of your own bias blind you from the truth. The report was not well research as he/she should talk to both side. Where is the people especially Tonga whose business was burned and lost everything as most do not have insurance. The people who lost their job over 600 of them - no job no money as there is no unemployment benefit payment - so no money. These people have families, kids - how are they feeding their kids when there is no job now and the forseen future. Commeon you guys you just pat your own back with out even one moment to think of the incredible suffering of the rest of the Tongan people whose little business were burned and lost jobs...there is nothing else to turn to -- he has plenty time to interview the DEMO people but none from the Tongan who lost everything -- What independent what a joke!!!!
 

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Your independance is very questionable, Indy's article on Tonga is so one sided you must be blind or your illusion of your own bias blind you from the truth. The report was not well research as he/she should talk to both side. Where is the people especially Tonga whose business was burned and lost everything as most do not have insurance. The people who lost their job over 600 of them - no job no money as there is no unemployment benefit payment - so no money. These people have families, kids - how are they feeding their kids when there is no job now and the forseen future. Commeon you guys you just pat your own back with out even one moment to think of the incredible suffering of the rest of the Tongan people whose little business were burned and lost jobs...there is nothing else to turn to -- he has plenty time to interview the DEMO people but none from the Tongan who lost everything -- What independent what a joke!!!!
 

Re: Revolutionary not Evolutionary – indymedia activists report from Tonga

Hi, i myself have visited Tonga not long ago, before the king died, and tonga was such a beautiful place, the people were friendly roaming the streets with no violence what so ever, everyone was welcoming, but now it's totally different, the place is a mess, the friendly people have turned into angry rioters, over what they believe.
 

Re: Revolutionary not Evolutionary – indymedia activists report from Tonga

Fantastic to see some real coverage on events in our reigion instead of the usual hogwash about how great our troops are and how good we are to send them. Thanks for the in depth reporting - you wouldnt know it had even happened if you only watch Ozzie TV!
 

Re: Revolutionary not Evolutionary – indymedia activists report from Tonga

Over here you have the media saying all is well in Tonga, yet they fail to report that Tonga is clearly under Marshall Law at the moment.
 

Re: Re: Revolutionary not Evolutionary – indymedia activists report from Tonga

I just want to correct you that Marshall Law is very different to State of Emergency. Tonga is not under Marshall Law. Should try and correct your facts before sharing.
 

Re: Revolutionary not Evolutionary – indymedia activists report from Tonga

Why are they blaming this Prime Minister and the government? Who called the people to Pangai and who incited them to have so much fury and hate for the government, Chinese, Tongan businesses and other media organisations? I think that they should own up to their part in the riot and stop pointing fingers at others. If they want a peaceful democracy in Tonga then be a man.
 

Re: Revolutionary not Evolutionary – indymedia activists report from Tonga

martial law 
1. the law temporarily imposed upon an area by state or national military forces when civil authority has broken down

from dictionary.com
 

Re: Re: Revolutionary not Evolutionary – indymedia activists report from Tonga

Quite to the contrary civil authority still exists. Government departments are operating including the vital services, health, education, health and police.
 

Re: Revolutionary not Evolutionary – indymedia activists report from Tonga

The emporers clothes syndrome again
 

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New York, New York, USA

It's just as well my family was not hurt in the riot I would have flown over and popped you myself akilisi so just watch your back........
 

Re: Revolutionary not Evolutionary – indymedia activists report from Tonga

perhaps the friendliness was just on the surface of things and was hiding the suffering beneath.
 

Re: Revolutionary not Evolutionary – indymedia activists report from Tonga

Tongans are very friendly people, will teach us all a thing or two about hospitality.

The difficulty is distinguishing between the tradition of the Tongan Kingship system and the current British imposter system of British royalty dressed up as Tongan. Coupled with that you have massive social experimentation bombarding such a small country with masses of immigrants in such a short period of time radically changing the face of Nuku 'alofa. With this comes all the emporiums (Chinese version of the warehouse chain) lots of cheap junk to get the people hooked on.

This is in part where you get those fervently opposed to any descent concerning the king coming from the royalists for whom the King can do no wrong, then there are those that can see the discrepancies now between the have's and the have not's, then there are those opposed to modernisation, and those opposed to capitalism......and added to that, those that want all foreigners out...and lastly those that are a combination of some or most of those above.

Add to that some petrol and matches and then it was only ever going to be a matter of time.
 

Re: Revolutionary not Evolutionary – indymedia activists report from Tonga

There is nothing vaguely independent about this article. It fails to ask the hard questions and only takes a superficial look at it. Perhaps you should see ask Tevita Tu'i Uata why he was smiling and laughing at the ransacking and looting of Molisi and Pacific Royal Hotel. And also why peoples' rep 'Isi Pulu was at the looting and burning of the Shoreline offices.
They have not only shot themselves in the foot big time but also the rest of the country.
 

Re: Re: Revolutionary not Evolutionary – indymedia activists report from Tonga

Nothing independant about the article? What news corporation sponsored it then? It was written by a person who works for no news agency as such, and makes no pretense at being anything other than the views of the author. Perhaps if the critics of the author donate some money then he could go to some of the more out of the way villages rather than Nuku Alofa. A reasonably written article I think.
 

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Then perhaps they should remove the title 'indy'? The fundamental principle of journalism in writing any article is to get the views of both side, something totally lacking in this piece.
 

Re: Revolutionary not Evolutionary – indymedia activists report from Tonga

I have traveled to Tonga on 2 occassions. What you are reporting is true. The royal family and the so called nobles, with the exception of the crown princess, are completely insensitive to the needs of the people. Remember, this the country that sells passports to any and everyone for $50,000. One has to ask the question, "Why has this rebellion taken so long to materialize.
 

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It is clear from your 2 visits that you learnt nothing. The sale of passports under the 1996 passport regulations was ended by government in 1999. It was the brainchild of now pro democracy and former police minster and 'hangman' Clive Edwards. He was also mastermind of the failed goverment attempt to muzzle free press in the form of the 2003 Newspaper Act. One of the concerns of the people is against the princess pilolevu's, and not crown princess as you state, company TongaSat. Get your facts right.
 

Re: Revolutionary not Evolutionary – indymedia activists report from Tonga

its great to hear that people are actually asking and fighting for their freedom in such hard and hortifying conditions!if we fight the power together we can win, but alone we become victims
 

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again another ignorant comment. check your facts by taking the time and reading our constitution and any other material for that matter to verify what 'hortifying conditions' we are living with. we are a constitutional monarchy. name me a democratic country that has constitutional land rights to ever tongan male on reaching 16? democratic change will happen at our pace and not by imposed the pro democracy movement, I mean pro demolition movement.
 

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the tongan people live to serve the king, royalties,etc. that means they in no way serve the 'PEOPLE'-- polynesians shoud be for the families and the common people, amd not adopt a european way of life. so for instance, if a person is not part of royalty then he/she and their families are to serve these 'royalties'for the rest of their lives? then the next generation... i think the people of tonga made a statement to the world that they are sick and tired of living in a 'feudel' wa of life
 

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another ignorant comment. people who serve the king and royalty and nobles do it out of their own FREE WILL. there is nothing in the laws of tonga that forces anyone to serve anyone, that would be slavery and quite illegal. the statement made on 16/11 were criminal and terrorist acts by a small extreme minority.
 

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the statement made on the 16/11 were NOT made by a small extreme minority. you comment is extremely ignorant. the people who serve the king and other parasites have no other choice, even thouhgh it would appear they would like one judging by the events of 16/11. free will in a feudal sysytem, what a joke. the people are coerced to serve the king for if they do otherwise they are imprisoned and beaten. DOWN WITH ARISTOCRATIC FEUDAL RULE!! THE KING IS PARASITE WHO FEEDS OFF THE PEOPLE!! DOWN WITH THE APOLOGISTS OF THE MURDEROUS RULE OF THE KING!!!
 

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what utter nonsense. the king or the government has never killed anyone not have they pillaged, ransacked, looted and left hundreds of people and their families unemployed. no one is coerced or forced to do serve anyone here. come to Tonga to find out for yourself
 

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if they aren't coerced why isn't democratic reform being instigated? coercion dosen't amount to forcing people what to do. it also limits the choices and the freedoms the people might want to instigate. the tongan monarchy is coercive for refusing the peoples demands for a liberal democracy in tonga. this is because the tongan monarchy is parasitic and needs the people to be compliant to it's rule in order to ensure it parasitic ways can continue. hence the people are coerced into serving the king because the king controls the conditions in which the choices are made.
SMASH THE KING!! RAZE HIS PALACE TO THE GROUND!!
 

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I am not too sure where you get your information about the Tongan King...From 1875 Tonga's constitution freed everyone and everyone is equal under the Law..commoners Nobles everyone every one...FREE from anything.... have you lived in Tonga ??? I have for 49 years and 14 years overseas....Education Post Grad current job a Senior Officer in a Government Dept overseas --look at Tonga's Constitution its on. Its freedom in Tonga evenmore than any overseas country that I have ben...correnly living in one ...have been to Europe couples times, Asia two countries Pacific almost all countries. DFoes the NZ give land free?? NO Does the KIng ( Crown) gives Tongan free land YES.. by the year 2000 the Total housrhold in Tonga 15,000 the amount of farmland (8.25 acres) given to people 16,321 so every hosehold in Tonga have been given a piece of farm land free and town allotment, all these are registered in the land office and it will be these people for ever & pass down the generation for ever...who gave you rubbish info... Fiji - most of the land in Fiji is still own by the chieves..so everyone own it but no individual ownership....Samoa have their own land tenure... please get your information right..read a lot talk to people, go to Tonga..the largest infomation source is us who have live there for most of our lives
 

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Gosh, its like the events of the past two years have totally passed you by. What i don't understand is the claim that if a constitution has 'freed everyone' exists at the same time as a king. Obviously he has to get his wealth (which he so frivously squanders...) from somewhere, i mean its not like he has to do any work. Hence my claim that he is a parasite. He is a parasite cause he does nothing for his position. This is also why the Tongan regime is coercive. It is clearly designed, including the constitution, to allow for the monarchy to continue in its parasitic ways. Judging from the protests over the last couple of years the people have had enough of this parasite and want a say in the affairs of state but the king is stopping this from happening. That is why the Tongan regime is coersive. Noone is free from anything. Just cause the king is giving out land dosen't make him any better. I bet the only reason he is doing it is cause the people want to burn his palace so if he gives out land (and how did he get the land anyway??) the people might think he's not so bad. It sounds like a tax cut just before election time.
Anyway, I have my struggle here in NZ against things that are coersive, the Tongan people have a struggle against those coersive powers in their lands. More power to them.
DOWN WITH PUSSY PALACE!!!
(the name of the tongan princess's palace)
DOWN WITH THE KING!!
 

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It is funny that NZ have a QUEEN Elizabeth II ( of England) she is not even a KIWI-- she owns 3 million hectares in NZ - she should give you some of that. Why should NZ have a Queen-- how did she get all that land she must have stolen it from the Maori people-- and I think that's true isn't it-- did the Pakeha stole a lot of the poor Maori lands???? you should be very proud of that--is that why the NZ Government gave back some land and pay the Maori people compansation - because the Pakeha stole a lot of the Maori land...wow what wonderful people are the NZ ers are!!!!!!
What you read in the media as you say in the last two years, you have to be smater than that as you seem to be a intelligent person, you have to question what you read whether it is true or is it just propaganda...so just beware it might not be true...
I think you should stay with your struggle in NZ I think you are doing a good job .. and a decentant of the GOOD NZ people who did wonder (th...) to the Maori people..hey pass my regards to your lovely Queen...she must be a good KIWI
 

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'smash the king, raze his palace to the ground' what utter tripe! Which part of democracy is that? I suggest you do your research on Tonga and the political polices govt has been committed 2 in the last 10 months including the present king's full approval of Prince Tu'ipelehake's report of political reform when he was crown prince.
 

Re: Revolutionary not Evolutionary – indymedia activists report from Tonga

if you love your country kick out the king and live free of his chains
 

Re: Revolutionary not Evolutionary – indymedia activists report from Tonga

The king will do everything for his people, except get off their backs.
 

Re: Revolutionary not Evolutionary – indymedia activists report from Tonga

It has not been known to the overseas that the leader of the pro - democracy is one of the USP Sociologist expert, he is very experience in trying to blindfold the less educated and the less understanding of the administration of Tonga, so he than start in Tonga with a program of digging up all the dead horse story of Tongan's mornarchy to feed the mind of the people of Tonga to the standard of todays riots, looters and arsonist, these youth had do the work they did not ever understand that the leaders is a strong preacher but not a excellent advocators, he only rode on the arms of the holy people and Intellectual and smart Law practitioners and expert of this Kingdom , and than he kicked off the way so he than reach to the peak of his idea to be the first person to encourage the arson, looting, and step aside not like the revolutionist of the history we understand. He is a man of heart hurt since he understand how to teach the islanders to drink the salted water of bitterness, hatred, jealousy. So, his mind is very small and the sociologist - see you.
 

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Strong Fotos.
fraus humping hombres in the arse fraus humping hombres in the arse
hot homres scenes hot homres scenes
 

BRITISH LABOUR PARTY CABINET ARE THEY NOT TRAITORS...?

LABOUR PARTY CABINET - IS IT NOT "FIT FOR PURPOSE"?
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LABOUR PARTY CABINET HAS MAJORITY OF ITS CABINET MINISTERS - ARDENT ZIONIST SUPPORTERS: HARRIET HARMAN (MRS JACK DROMEY);
TESSA JOWELL (MRS DAVID MILLS)(MINISTER FOR OLYMPICS & LONDON),
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DAVID MILIBAND (FOREIGN SECRETARY) [ED MILIBAND'S BROTHER];
ED MILIBAND (CABINET OFFICE MINISTER, CHANCELLOR OF THE DUCHY OF LANCASTER)[DAVID MILIBAND'S BROTHER] ARE ALL ZIONIST - WHICH CONFLICTS WITH THEIR DUTY TO SUPPORT THE BRITISH STATE!

MANY OF THE LABOUR PARTY CABINET [LIKE JAMES GORDON BROWN PhD] ARE SCOTS.
MOST OF THE LABOUR PARTY WOMEN USE THEIR MAIDEN NAME NOT THEIR MARRIED NAME - DONE IN AN EFFORT TO DECOUPLE - DECEIVE THE BRITISH PUBLIC OF THEIR TRUE LINKS.

Ms HAZEL BLEARS (Mrs MICHAEL HALSALL) - COMMUNITIES & LOCAL GOVERNMENT SECRETARY;
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Ms BEVERLY HUGHES (Mrs THOMAS McDONALD) - MINISTER FOR CHILDREN
JACK STRAW - JUSTICE SECRETARY [Zionist]

Ms PATRICIA SCOTLAND of ASTHAL {from DOMINICA not BRITAIN} - HM ATTORNEY GENERAL

BRITISH LABOUR PARTY CABINET ARE THEY NOT TRAITORS...?
 

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