do you really think it is a good idea to call people fools for driving cars? Can't you see that your arrogance (calling people 'fools') and simplistic green purity ('keep all fossil fuels in the ground') is off-putting to the vast majority of the public?

mobil exxon and shell are off puting to a lot of the public, and def offputing to the nigerian people who shell killed.

how many die a year from car crashes and air pollution..? the internatl combustion engine isn't the only form of transport.

what are you suggestion, for improving things?

stop fronting for oil companies anon.

THE POLITICS OF BONES by J. Timothy Hunt
Type: Common Interest - Beliefs & Causes
Description: Dedicated to spreading awareness of the oil industry's persecution of the Ogoni people in Nigeria, the story of Dr. Owens Wiwa and Ken Saro-Wiwa, and J. Timothy Hunt's new book THE POLITICS OF BONES.

"On November 10, 1995, Nigeria's military dictatorship executed nine environmental activists, including Ken Saro-Wiwa, the charismatic spokesman of the Ogoni people, whose land in the fertile Niger River delta has been polluted by oil extraction. During Ken's incarceration on a trumped-up murder charge, his brother, Dr. Owens Wiwa, fought valiantly to save his life-even though he himself was on the government's most-wanted list. When his quest failed, Owens narrowly escaped with his own life, fleeing the country on foot with his wife and newborn son."
-Synopsis from Hunt's book, THE POLITICS OF BONES

Please invite friends and anyone who would be supportive of this cause. People need to become aware of what went on and still continues in Nigeria, and read the book, it's amazing and 100% true.

www.ratical.org/corporations/OgoniFactS.html

www.remembersarowiwa.com/bones_book.htm

www.jtimothyhunt.com/

so i'm an evil agent of oil companies am I for suggesting your propaganda is off-putting to most people? Haha ho ho. Aw gosh, I loathe this simplistic activist black and white 'your'e either against us or with us' mentality.

I am simply suggesting that you if don't imply everyone who drives a car is a 'fool', and don't suggest unrealistic utopian purist solutions like 'leaving all the fossil fuels in the ground' you would get more support. But then I suspect you probably don't want to get support from working class people (who of necessity drive cars), but just want support from purist hippies, middle-class liberals and greens.

I like the emphasis in the post that its the fools at the head of the oil companies, supported by the govt, who are the real problem. And the link between oil and war. So i'm not unsupportive of 'the cause'. But i reckon its the system and not individuals who are to blame -- even if you got rid of the current head honchos new capitalists and politicians would replace them who would be just as bad.

you need people to not place faith in oil companies to fix things, or councils that support motorway expansion. i live in auckland and our council sucks.

i am not blaming working class people, and also not supporting car culture. there is a difference. i support working class people that cycle and walk and carpool or use public transport.

i support work to lower public transport fairs and decrease dependency on oil and cars. it is foolish to get oil from a wilderness reserve in alaska or to go to war for oil in iraq, or support tyranny in nigeria for oil.

it is the fools in government and the industry fools that fund them that are the problem. people need to see beyond SUVs and md donalds as 'working class culture'.