Trbute to Elizabeth Fritzl
I've got into the habit of posting about stuff I care deeply about on this list and since the news broke I've been unable to get the plight of Elizabeth Fritzl out of my head. All day at work and all night the image of her hell hole keeps coming back all the time.
Ghastly it must have been for her children, but at least they knew no different world, Elizabeth did.
To be deprived of virtually everything that makes life a life for twenty four years and be tortured, physically, mentally and spiritually all that time.
To exist through all that and not become suicidal or driven crazy.
To miss being out in the cold and coming back into the warm, going to a party, giving a party, shopping, walking in the bush, having a job, making decisions, finding a lover, making friends. Missing the friends she'd already made.
Having no contact but with her mad authoritarian rapist captor. Noone to cuddle up to or have a laugh with.
Bearing and looking after her children, alone, in concentration camp conditions.
Trying to escape after ten years, failing and carrying on. After twenty four years, being ready and able to to dare stick a help note in her daughter's pocket when she finally was sent to hospital.
Elizabeth Fritzl's survival of such an ordeal is an extraordinary individual heroism and a triumph of the human spirit. An inspiration to keep on going when every single thing in your universe seems hopeless. Her example should be taken as a priceless gift to revolutionary humanity.
Don Franks
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Kyle Webster
NZNO BOD
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Concentration camp internees still had plenty of social contact.
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I'd be concerned about Mrs Fritzl, too - Elizabeth's mother - who can't have had an exactly loving, stable experience of marriage and motherhood.
Makes Austrian men look like a big risk factor, though, doesn't it?
For once, I'll reference something the Dompost published - Rosemary McLeod suggested putting a fibre-optic investigatory cable through the floorboards of every residence of an Austrian male in the country. Perhaps they'd even find Madeleine McCann...
This story, of Elizabeth Fritzl's terrible life of abuse, just epitomises for me why the patriarchal systems, that support the on-going ability of men who *choose* this kind of behaviour to get away with it for decades, need to be destroyed. Soon.
in rage, anarkaytie
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I've been struggling to read about this, because it's the field I work and volunteer in - violence against women - and has been for more than a decade. And everytime a case like this becomes public, the way mainstream media, and to a certain extent 'us', deals with it, disturbs me. Herr Fritzl is a man who made monstrous choices, who deliberately covered up his abuse of his children for 24 years. But he made those choices in our world, because violence against women is minimised, denied, tolerated and supported by all kinds of social mores, customs, traditions, behaviour.
Sometimes when we create a 'monster' we miss the point - sexual abuse and torture is an experience too many women and girls have (and too many men and boys too).
I like your turning this on it's head by celebrating Elizabeth Fritzl's survival, and I hope to hell she, and her children do survive with some sense of themselves, some way to find joy and connection and happiness intact.
Thanks again.
Sandra Dickson
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Margrieta Jeltema
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I agree with everything you said. I too have been preoccupied with this case since it broke. I think Elizabeth is a remarkable woman. No matter what we go through in our lives, if we start to feel sorry for ourselves all we have to do is go back to her life, then realize we have nothing to feel sorry for ourselves about.
Sphinx
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And this Elizabeth is a hero to survive this war. I pray the GOD to give her the best things in heaven that he can give to anyone, and give that father the worst things in the hell. This is the only thing that can calm me down. I suffer really, when I think about this woman.
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Sindhu- Kerala-India
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Might I add that you can financially assist Elisabeth and her family either through as direct bank deposit, see www.amstetten.at) or deposit through PayPal using the email address office (at) notar-zillinger.at This will help in a positive way
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Elisabeth is a TRUE HERO, an unbelievably strong and brave woman. She could have at any time killed her father, then her chldren, and then herself, but she didn't!
As for him (Josef), I guess his defense will be insanity, but I do not believe that he is insane. He just has a typical criminal mentality - me,me,me..all about me. He knows right from wrong, he knows what he did was wrong...he just doesn't care!
And now I read that he will go up before a woman judge. For a man whose whole life has been about having control over women and children, that will be hard...good!!
My last comment...I am very sick of articles that use words about his "great sexual potency"..as if this disgusting PIG was some kind of great stud!
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held captive that i'v heard of, and should be given a medal for courage.
her dad, i can think of no other punishment than
and underground prizon in solitary confinment..
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her 6 kids and moved out of the clinic to a
private location ,
she also has kick her mom out of her life for not
beleaving her when she was younger about her sex
abuse,
elizabeth aparently became angery when 3 of her
kids were calling grandma their mum.
this made elizabeth mad and ahe ane her 6 kids
left.
rosemarie went home packed her clothes and
some furniture and left the dungon house never
to return,i read that rosemarie is living with
relatives for now,
elizabeth left because she wants to set her kids
straight on who their mom is..
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her 6 kids and moved out of the clinic to a
private location ,
she also has kick her mom out of her life for not
beleaving her when she was younger about her sex
abuse,
elizabeth aparently became angery when 3 of her
kids were calling grandma their mum.
this made elizabeth mad and she and her 6 kids
left.
rosemarie went home packed her clothes and
some furniture and left the dungon house never
to return,i read that rosemarie is living with
relatives for now,
elizabeth left because she wants to set her kids
straight on who their mom is..
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words..
better on second text
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call elizabeth fritzl is (DUGON GIRL), it sounds
so repulsive
please just say elizabeth
please have respect for her .i'm sure she won't
sler you..
she's went through hell,she deserves respect.
please for her, and pass this on...